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Subject: Re: Amiga users?
Date: 3 Mar 1996 14:23:56 GMT
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>Hi there!

>Any Amiga users (Still) out there?

>Greetings,

>Jeroen van Velsen (NETMAIL: 14:101/101.8)
>                  (E-Mail: [e-mail])
>A4000T V3.1 WarpEngine 040/40mhz 22mb RAM
>-- Via Xenolink 1.981, XenolinkUUCP 1.1


This is something special for the dutch guy.......

Ik denk meer dan genoeg. Alleen niet iedereen laat het weten.
Maar ik blijf een AMIGA FANAAT in hard en nieren.
Ook al werk ik normaal met PC'S op mijn werk.

Groeten van uit MIDDEN HOLLAND........


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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave?
Date: 3 Mar 1996 08:19:49 -0500
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On Mar 01, 1996 00:07:46 in article <Re: MAX or Lightwave?>, 'Jeff Jasper
<[e-mail]>' wrote:


>NewTek will add some great new features in the next release and bump up
the priceing to at least $1,500. Sorry hobby users, but is a dog eat dog
world in the animation marketplace and Lightwave is getting hurt by it's
marketing and priceing.

Raising the snob appeal by raising the price can easily backfire.

Lightwave is already more expensive than Photoshop and Fractal Design
painter combined, and those are hardly hobbyist tools. Lightwave already
costs more than $3000 if you bought it from version 1.0 and have been
upgrading over the years.

--
M C L -

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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Looking For Those Humanoid Objects
Date: 3 Mar 1996 08:26:42 -0500
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On Feb 29, 1996 15:57:01 in article <Re: Looking For Those Humanoid
Objects>, '[e-mail] (John Foust)' wrote:


>I think 3D animators need to gather a bit more respect for the
>design properties of other people.  If someone used a Barbie (tm)
>to make a mold for making unauthorized clones in plastic, they
>would be prosecuted quite severely if caught.  Why is it right
>to do the same when it comes to 3D animations?
>

It'd be hard to prove if the proportions varied slightly from the original
real-life object. After all it is the human form we are talking about.
Barbie's face is pretty generic, so if you don't duplicate the "painted"
face on the doll, you will have a different face on your character.

--
M C L -

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From: Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Randomizing in batches
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 11:22:47 -0500
Organization: LumaQuest Productions, Dayton, OH
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> > Negative magnetic field? In Sparks? Hmmmmm. I have V1.04 for Alpha here and
> > there's no magnetic field option at all. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING? TELL ME NOW!!!
> > TELL ME!!!
> > --
> > Andrew Hofman
>
> Sorry for the confusion and don`t shout.
>
> Well here goes .
>                for oppsing planes go to gravities,add a motion for
> the enemy plane in lwmo file path,select anti matter ,set mass and influence
> Does this answer it .:-}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
> I know you have to do each one but it don`t take that long.
> Positive will work automatically.
> magnetic /hmmmmmm >>because i was not in front of the sys that had
> sparks i forgot the right lingo>ok>
>
> Simon Blackledge

Yes I admit I shouted, but it was meant to be funny, i.e. the accusation that
you were "hiding" something. Of course you weren't, which is what (I thought)
made it absurd. Sorry if it lost something in the translation.

In any event, I question whether you're using Sparks from MetroGrafx. At least
not version 1.04. There simply are no parameters for things like Anti Matter,
Mass and Influence. I wish there were! From your wording, it also sounds like
there is an entire submenu for "Gravities". My copy has one numeric input for
Gravity and that's it. Since the most current version of Sparks (which I am due
a copy of) has little or no change in the interface, I wonder if you're not
actually using Particle Storm or some other program, and generically referring
to it as Sparks?

--
Andrew Hofman
LumaQuest Productions
[e-mail]
513-643-7333

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From: [e-mail] (Steven Johansen)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Texture Map ?
Date: 3 Mar 1996 22:37:37 +1100
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        In Modeler:
    Select all points on your sphere (ie. not the points on the spikes)
     use set value to
    make selected points 0 in Y axis.
    Invert selection
    set value to 1m in Y axis.

    Save the resulting mess as ballmorf.lwo

        In Layout:
    Load original object, dissolve it 100%
    Load ballmorf.lwo & morph it 100% to original object.
        Then use a grid texture or an image map to create
a blend of colors between 0 and 1m in the Y direction.

    Steven

    p.s. I realize that this isn't probably a very coherent explanation,
    if you muck around with this for a while and can't achieve what
    you are looking for email me.

--
X

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: "R. Stingly' seems fishy to Lee
Date: 3 Mar 1996 19:23:33 GMT
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In article <4haame$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>So, I tried to phone him. But neither Kansas City area code (816 or 913)
>had a Robert or Bob Stingly. I called the Stinglys that were listed. No
>Bob. And no 'Video Wizard Productions' either. Some people don't list
>their phone numbers.  Some small businesses aren't listed. But
>still....curiouser and curiouser...

One of my new favorites, http://www.switchboard.com, shows in a
nation-wide search:

Stingly, Cathy...113 14th St...Charleston, IL 61920-1618
Phone: [phone]

Stingly, Dorothy...Rr 3...Kosciusko, MS 39090-9803
Phone: [phone]

and no matches for 'Video Wizard Productions' nationwide, either.

What, you mean people aren't who they say they are online?
I'm shocked, shocked, shocked!

-John


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From: [e-mail] (FXMatte)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lee and his threads.
Date: 3 Mar 1996 15:15:04 -0500
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Lee Stranahan writes:

> I don't carry on threads by myself. Other people do respond - please
>review Area 51's pathetic 100% fact-free responses to my posts for an
>example. Maybe it just seems like others aren't responding...

Yes! Yes! Yes!  Please review them.  Go to that thread right now and
review, review, review.

Lee, I thought you dropped the issue, or did I misunderstand your last
post to the thread, "Area 51  was: LW interfacing with film."  No one at
Area 51 replied further because we all thought you said (to paraphrase)
that you were dropping it.

To everyone else REVIEWING the thread, please e-mail me or respond
publically and let me know if I am totally off my rocker regarding this
conclusion.  Did Lee NOT communicate that he had no intention to carry the
thread further in several posts, yet jump right on back in when any one
said something he disagreed with? Review carefully here. (I personally
disagree with a lot of people in the world, but am not compelled to take
them up on it.  My whole life would be filled with arguements.  What a
waste.)

Matt Merkovich

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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lee and his threads.
Date: 3 Mar 1996 15:59:34 -0500
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Matt,

In my last Area 51 post, I said I was tired of repeating the same facts
over and over again, and that I thought I'd proven my case. I also said
that your posts had no content. They still don't. Come back when you get
some.

As for my post being a continuation of the Area 51 thread - you flatter
yourself, sir. My post to Shane was not a continuation of anything, it was
a response to another 'Lee slam' (a rash of them lately, although this one
was intelligent and not merely insulting.) I addressed Shane's concerns
because there are a number of people who think the way Shane does, and I
wanted to clairify my position.

In general, my position is - 'If you hate me, look at my enemies.'

PS Hey Matt, do YOU know Robert Stingly? I think you might....


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Q : What do BBQ and better sex have in common?
A : Lee's new and improved home page!
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: Robert Dorney <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Books
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 19:57:36 GMT
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In article: <Pine.SV4.3.91.960227192122.16144E-100000@cello>  Manuel Coats <[e-mail]> writes:
> The book is called the FX KIT FOR LIGHTWAVE and sells for $34.95.  It's
> over 300 pages and can be ordered by using one of the #'s below.
>
> 800-764-8696 - Us Orders
> 805-726-3545 - All other orders
> 805-726-3544 - Fax orders
>
> Or you can send check/money order to:
>
> Lightspeed
> 2763 West Avenue L Suite 172
> Lancaster, Ca. 93536
> USA
>

Whats the cost including shipping/postage to the UK?

           * Robert Dorney * Red Devil of Dual Crew^Shining *
    * Head of Art and Graphics at Eden Entertainment Software Ltd *
          * Digital Candy BBS * [phone] (6nodes) *


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From: [e-mail] (Sean Huxter)
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Subject: Re: Lee Stranahan's Story Smells Fishy
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 20:48:51 GMT
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[e-mail] (Rstingly) wrote:

CLIP
>There was
>also a mention of Lee charging a pile of personal purchases
>on a NewTek company credit card.
CLIP
>This person also worked closely with the people
>from Avid Publications and said that the main reason that
>Lee's review was pulled from the magazine was because the
>editor and publisher felt it was inappropriate to be
>promoting "the world's smartest Toaster guy" when his
>current recommendation was to sell your Toaster.
CLIP
>"Typical Lee s**t," is what he called it.
CLIP
> Maybe Lee can comment?    :)
>Bob Stingly
>Video Wizard Productions


->EVERYBODY HIT THE DIRT!<-

That's it, I'm OUTA here. When did this Lightwave forum become a place
for Lee and his 'Enemies' to fight it out?

Look, I've met Lee. A few years ago, I spent a week being trained in
Lightwave by him. He knew a lot, and I learned a lot. He was a
pleasant, funny and intelligent instructor who took the time to see
that people who would not normally understand a complex 3D concept had
a pretty easy time of it. He gave me the confidence to complete a very
difficult project, and I thank him for all he did for me.

I don't know about his dealings with NewTek, except that he spent a
lot of time during that week on the phone with them. I do not know
about his dealings with Area 51, or any other company, including AVID,
who may have dealt him dirty.

Lee:  I feel sure that you have been wronged by several companies, and
that your brother Ken was screwed by Area 51. You make a good case.
But don't expect everyone to believe every word you say. Companies
being greedy? Really? When did this happen in American history? If you
or anyone else fell victim to greed, you should have seen it coming.
Companies are greedy. They'll take everything you've got for
themselves if you don't protect yourself. So sign contracts up front,
and make sure you read the fine print. Get a lawyer if you've been
screwed.

Enemies:  By arguing with Lee online, and posting examples, as above,
you are opening yourselves up to:

a) A flame war, at the very least
b) charges of libel, if Lee can prove what he's saying, and that what
you're saying is wrong.

So why continue?

Let's use this group as a forum for asking questions about Lightwave,
and helping others out when they're stuck on something.

(As for AVID saying that Lee was disproving his title as "The World's
Smartest TOASTER Guy" by telling everyone to sell their Toasters,
well, who can say? I just know that Lightwave runs a LOT faster on a
DEC Alpha. Does this prove that Lee is not smart?)

Sean.



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Wooly Mittens <4g9a42$[e-mail]> wrote:

> > Interesting.  Mine's called "PowerView.p".  Seems to work fine.

> How is FINE defined, My version doesn't seem to keep track of which
> polygons are behind which.

Mine sometimes does that too, but I don't think that is a function of
the plug-in filename.  It seems rather a function of the object geometry.

  - steve

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From: [e-mail] (Jack Bennett II)
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Subject: Re: Don't want to start something else
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 23:07:54 GMT
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[e-mail] (Stranahan) wrote:

>Exabyting is way to get frames to an from your computer. The name comes
>from the fact that you use an 'Exabyte tape drive' - it's basically a
>format. It uses 8mm tape.

So it is like another drive? A LA Tape Backup? or is it like a single
frame recorder?


>Can you do simliar stuff with the PAR? Yes, for sure. Exabyting is the
>best way to keep ALL the quality, although PAR or PVR is fine for 95% of
>things. (PVR esp.)

So I could just output from the P*R cards to the tape and 95% will be
a happy thing?

>By the way - uprezing. Totally got missed in the last discussion, STILL,
>and I was dead serious when I brought it up.

Hey, no problem.  I just hope that everything works out for you and
your brother.   BTW, need any help someday, give a buzz.  :)

Jack Bennett II

[e-mail]

Creative Imagineering
Special Mechanical Effects
Computer Graphics and Animation

Web page in the works!


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From: [e-mail] (Frédéric DRUILHET)
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Subject: >>> Searching informations about plugins <<<
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Hi,
i'm a french and new user of lightwave.
I'm looking for informations about the following plugins :
    sparks
    fiber factory
    impact
    particle storm
    or other you can propose;
if you're using one of those, tell me what you really think about them. That
will help me in making my mind.
Mail me a description of the plugin action and your comments.(Please no
commercial things between us)
Thanks
frederic


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From: [e-mail] (MuMan)
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Subject: Looking for info and opinions on Sparks, Particle Storm, Impact, plugins,....
Date: 4 Mar 1996 00:08:38 GMT
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Are the any Web Pages giving specs on what exactly these can do?

Sparks v. Particle Storm
Similar? Which is better? What all can they do? Is it just pixel based
particles or can you flock you own models?

Impact
How good is it?  Fast, accurate?

I apprecaite any information and user opinions!

thanks

steve


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From: Shana Fox <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PC to Amiga
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 14:30:51 -0800
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I want to download lightwave files the net onto my PC and then use it on
the Amiga with Video Toaster 3.1 at school.   Are thier any plug-ins that
would help me do this?  Also once I get them converted, how do I install
them on the Amiga?  Any help would be great.  ThanX
--

--Shana Fox

"DR.: I'm a foundationalist    Ivonava: a what?
Dr.: a foundationalist, we believe that god is an infinite number of dots
and the closer you get, the harder it is to understand God."  --Babylon 5

=E2:EA=X-Phile=VRStormer=Trekker=Timetrax!=Tomorrowpeople!=StrangeLuck=

         Shana Fox             [e-mail]

 "If we had all the answers we wouldn't be scientists we'd be Gods"
--Seaquest


=Bibliphile=Seaquest!=ForeverKnight!=Tekker=ER=Mercedes Lackey's
Valdermer series=

Forever Knight has been cancelled!!!:-(((( check here for more info
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html



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From: [e-mail] (Chua Kian Tong)
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Subject: FS: Lightwave 4.0 and Scala MM400
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The above titles for sale. For PC/Amiga and Amiga. Also have a copy
of 3D Studio Max and Penello for sale.
Will also take offer for Photoshop NT 3.2

Regards



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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: "Dual Booting" 95 and NT "HOW????
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I want to boot NT from my syquest,and still keep 95, How do you
do this???



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From: [e-mail] (Derek Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: SDK and AREXX DOC's
Date: 3 Mar 1996 21:06:39 -0500
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In article <4ghhbp$[e-mail]>,
MarcICIB <[e-mail]> wrote:
>We are looking for the AREXX doc's because it is nice to read in the SDK
>work for a developer to figuar out how the function exactly works. So
>please put the Doc online....

The modeller Arexx docs are located in the AREXX directory that comes
with the Toaster software.  At least this is true for 3.5.  I haven't
upgraded to 4.0 and I'm not sure about the IBM version...  but anyway
see if your version has this.

Derek<<<<<


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From: [e-mail] (FXMatte)
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Subject: Re: 2D Image to LW object
Date: 3 Mar 1996 21:19:54 -0500
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>Get polymorph(PC) or pixelpro (amiga) to extrude and smooth
>bitmaps.

I think he meant Polyform for the PC.  But he's right.  Your object will
need a bit of clean up but the software works very well.

Matt Merkovich

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From: [e-mail] (User722250)
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Subject: re: rendering on a PC.
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I am running lightwave on a PC, and can use help on trying to figure out
which type of hardware/software to use to get the best bang for the buck
when rendering my animations.  There is a limit to my bank account.
Dan from Occum
[e-mail]

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So it is like another drive? A LA Tape Backup? or is it like a single
frame recorder?
-------------------------------------------------

It's like a tape backup - Exabyte Drives do NOT play the video or
anything. That's what the Abekas DDR does.

-------------------------------------
So I could just output from the P*R cards to the tape and 95% will be
a happy thing?
-----------------------------------

Depends on your clients/final use. On my short film Access Denied, we use
both PVR and Exabyte - mainly so you can compare how the two look. In the
instructional part we talk about the differences, too.  If you are doing
effects for a network show, you'll probably use Exabyte - on the other
hand, if you're doing effects for a network show you probably know this
stuff. And, we have delivered shots on BetaSp dumped from PVR for a
network show (Nowhere Man.)




_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: [e-mail]
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>   [e-mail] (VirtualBri) writes:
>  Bob Stingly writes:
>  >A few days ago, I ran into an ex-NewTek employee
>  >who lives in my area (Kansas City)...
>
>  If you are going to stoop to personal sniping, let's know the name of the
>  accuser. Name your source.

    Indeed.  I note that, whether or not Lee is right/correct/truthful,
he IS  willing to name names, and not _just_ make unverifiable assertions.


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Negative Diffusion Tricks  was:  Realistic Metals?
Date: 4 Mar 1996 03:30:35 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Jim May) writes:

>  I was going to write this up for LWPro, but methinks that it wouldn't be
>  enough words to meet their minimum...<VERY COOL STUFF SNIPPED>

    Whoa!  Great stuff, Jim!  Thanks for the tips:  I learn something
    every day!

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: AREXX to C programming
Date: 4 Mar 1996 03:33:41 GMT
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>   Elliot Bain <[e-mail]> writes:
>  Uhhh, can you say Microsoft Basic, QBasic, Visual Basic and then Visual Basic for
>  Applications....I'd say Mr. Bill probably knew what he was doing for himself.
>
>  Elliot Bain

    Mr. Bill wants to make a buck, not a good product.  He's very good at
making a buck.

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Subject: Re: AREXX to C programming
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>   Elliot Bain <[e-mail]> writes:

>  Uhhh, can you say Microsoft Basic, QBasic, Visual Basic and then Visual Basic for
>  Applications....I'd say Mr. Bill probably knew what he was doing for himself.
>
>  Elliot Bain


Oh, and Stuart Ferguson, author of Lightwave Modeler, has the following to
say about Microsoft products, you can argue with him:


<START QUOTE>
Getting performance out of an Amiga is like getting water from a sponge.
You squeeze a little and you get some; you squeeze more and you get more.
There's a finite amount of water there, but if you apply reasonable
pressure you can get it all.  Getting performance from Windows is like
getting blood from a stone.  At first I thought it was impossible, but I
discovered a way to do it.  I whack my head against the stone as hard as
I can and keep doing that until I'm about to pass out.  If I do that
enough, I find that I do get some blood.

Maybe if I program in Windows enough I'll get used to it, but right now
my head hurts.
<END QUOTE>


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Randomizing in batches
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>   Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]> writes:
>  >         Andy, use LOAD FROM SCENE,  and adjust each one BEFORE loading in--it's
>  > a little easier.
>  >
>  >         (Sorry if this is too obvious.)
>  >
>  > ** [e-mail]
>
>  Well, see, their starting and ending times all have to be the same, or
>  they'd start drifting out of sync. The idea is to randomly offset all the
>  keyframes BETWEEN the start and end points by small amounts. To do that,
>  it's Motion Graph time.


    OK-- shouldn't be too hard to write an AREXX routine that would do that,
    or a BML-- just whompin' on the LWS ASCII file, eh?

>
>  --
>  Andrew Hofman
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From: [e-mail] (Gord Davison)
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Subject: Re: "R. Stingly' seems fishy to Lee
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[e-mail] (John Foust) wrote:

[SNIP]
>What, you mean people aren't who they say they are online?
>I'm shocked, shocked, shocked!
>
>-John

I don't think that the _real_ John Foust would feel that way ;-)

-evil twin of Gord Davison



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From: "Andrew S. Milkis" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: For Sale:  PAR w/1.7GB Hard Disk, LW 3D for SGI, SGI Indigo
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 23:50:07 -0500
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For Sale...

1. DPS Personal Animation Recorder with Micropolis 1.7GB Hard
Disk.
Asking $1500.

2. LightWave 3D 4.0 for SGI.  Retails for $2495, will settle for
$1850

3. SGI Iris Indigo:      MIPS R3000, 33Mhz
            56MB RAM
            1 GB Total Hard Disk
            17" Monitor
            Ethernet

Asking $2000 for entire system.


For the record, I am not trying to upgrade my systems.  I was a
freelance 3D animator and I have closed up my freelance business
and taken a staff job elsewhere.  Please email any questions to:

[e-mail]


Thanks,


Andrew Milkis

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From: [e-mail] (Dana Drury)
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    Could somebody please tell me where I could find out about getting either of these two things?

                        Thanks

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From: [e-mail] (muumi)
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[e-mail] (Steven Johansen) wrote:

>  Firstly apologies for posting a query which I'm sure I must have
>seen a dozen times in the last 4 months.(And never saved the response)
>    I just recieved the upgrade to the LW pre-release for Intel
>and I'm having trouble saving .avi animations.
>    I'm using win 3.1, LW 4.0 rev b, the hiip loaders(& savers)
>are installed.
>    Save anim is selected( with avi16 selected )
>and file is named anim.avi
>    The frames render but no avi file is created.
>    I seem to recall that some file needs to be renamed in order
>for this function to work correctly?
>    Anybody able to shed some light on this.

>    Thanks
>        Steven
>--
>X

 I had the same problem , but i couldn´t make it work.
Then i tried to save in avi32 but i got a message:
the AVIFIL32:DLL is linked to a missing export NTDLL.DLL:memmove.
So i asked around and found out that i needed a WIN´95 version of
AVIFIL32.DLL.
  If you are using WIN´95 ,you could try that.
Check out your WINDOWS/SYSTEM directory and if your AVIFIL32.DLL
is 90k then it´s NT-version and if it´s 86k then it´s ´95-version.

     i hope this works!

     ***MUUMI***

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From: [e-mail] (Kurt Harmel)
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Subject: Questions about SAAB Hamerhead Surfaces
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The Nov. issue of Video Toaster carried a fine article
on the effects and crew behind Space Above and Beyond.
On p.62 there's a nice pic of a hammerhead with a nifty
surface for the main body. The diffuse map at least, seems to differ
from the shot taken of the same ship on p.65. Does anyone have any
specific info on how they achieved the former surface(s)?

Thanks.

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Whitney)
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On 03-03-96, JIM was going on about Re: CHROMA KEY informatio

JM>From: [e-mail] (Jim May)
  >In article <4gt1s0$[e-mail]>, Steve Axtell
  ><[e-mail]> wrote:
  >
  >> Could you help me understand the process of using chroma keying
  >> with lightwave?  Is this correct?   I am going to shoot live actors
  >> against green or blue backgrounds, and then when I digitize and
  >> import the files into lightwave I will select that color as
  >> transparent. I want to composite it over 3D backgrounds and have it
  >> look very professional. The end result will be my puppet characters
  >> in 3D atmospheres.  Now, I understand that Alpha channels would be
  >> best, but I need suggestions on how to generate them since LW won't
  >> do it for me.  Is there another utility I need?  Thanks.  Ax
  >
  >Everyone else's answers to this problem seem to be assuming that the
  >key must be done in the digital realm.  I don't see why  you can't
  >simply cheat and do it externally using a good quality external
  >keyer.
  >Basically, you simply use a camera and a normal hardware chromakeyer
  >to key your actors onto a black background using an actual keyer
  >(perhaps the background 'video' could even be superblack); this would
  >allow you to tweak the key visually without hassling with computer
  >settings and having to re-render if the first attempt didn't work;
  >to this method would allow you adjust on the fly for differing
  >conditions, such as clothing color etc. and it's completely
  >straightforward.  Once it's on video, you simply suck it into the
  >digitizer and then key out the black.  The external video keyer did
  >all the hard work, and all the digital side has to do is make the
  >black transparent.  You could easily import it straight into LW and
  >use its internal key capabilities.
  >We at Vivid are going to be using this procedure on a regular basis
  >as soon as I tell them to on Monday (just occurred to me now.  Wish
  >to hell I'd thought of it before I did the "living cardboard cutout"
  >experiment using clip maps...)
  >
  >Jim May
  >


You'll still end up with the problems inherent to Chroma keying, but it
all depends on your live action subject matter.  If you have fine detail
such as hair, glassware, shadows, etc., you won't be able to hold clean
edges and detail on everything.

To resolve those sorts of problems, you need to go to an Ultimatte
process for your live shoot.  Not an inexpensive undertaking, but that's
where the state of the art is for this sort of thing.  You can also
record your alpha channel info separtely for doing post compositing too.

M.

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Whitney)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave for Charact
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On 03-02-96, CHRIS was going on about Re: Lightwave for Charact

CG>From: [e-mail] (Chris Golchert)
  >: So, I guess my question is how well can Lightwave be used for
  >: character animation of organic forms? I'm not aiming to make Toy
  >: Story here, I'm not

  >Are the Lightwave, blue M&M Commercials good enough?
  >
  >


Funny you should mention this.  I was just discussing these with someone
else.

Frankly, judging from the couple M&M's spots that I've seen, I think
these are fairly _poor_ examples.  The crinkling around the mouth seems
out of place rather than "characterful", their texture seems likes it's
painted bondo, and their walk actions skate.

Did I miss something or is it a matter of personal taste?  I don't know.
It just seemed hackneyed coming from Vinton Studios.

M.

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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
Subject: Re: An iff reader under win95 ???
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> I'm actually looking for an iff file format reader to run under win'95.
> Paint shop pro 3 send me back errors if there's not a shadow map or
> something like this.
> Mail me your answer thanks
> frederic druilhet
> [e-mail]
>

WINJPEG is actually very good at reading IFFs. It's shareware.

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In message <[e-mail]>
        Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]> writes:

> > > Negative magnetic field? In Sparks? Hmmmmm. I have V1.04 for
Alpha here and
> > > there's no magnetic field option at all. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?
TELL ME NOW!!!
> > > TELL ME!!!
> > > --
> > > Andrew Hofman
> >
> > Sorry for the confusion and don`t shout.
> >
> > Well here goes .
> >                for oppsing planes go to gravities,add a motion for
> > the enemy plane in lwmo file path,select anti matter ,set mass
and influence
> > Does this answer it .:-}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
> > I know you have to do each one but it don`t take that long.
> > Positive will work automatically.
> > magnetic /hmmmmmm >>because i was not in front of the sys that had
> > sparks i forgot the right lingo>ok>
> >
> > Simon Blackledge

> Yes I admit I shouted, but it was meant to be funny, i.e. the
accusation that
> you were "hiding" something. Of course you weren't, which is what
(I thought)
> made it absurd. Sorry if it lost something in the translation.

> In any event, I question whether you're using Sparks from
MetroGrafx. At least
> not version 1.04. There simply are no parameters for things like
Anti Matter,
> Mass and Influence. I wish there were! From your wording, it also
sounds like
> there is an entire submenu for "Gravities". My copy has one numeric
input for
> Gravity and that's it. Since the most current version of Sparks
(which I am due
> a copy of) has little or no change in the interface, I wonder if you're not
> actually using Particle Storm or some other program, and
generically referring
> to it as Sparks?

> --
> Andrew Hofman
> LumaQuest Productions
> [e-mail]
> 513-643-7333

Andrew,
       First of all lets sort this shouting business out,I know it
sounds funny but i have honestly no idea where "and don`t shout" came
from,i did take it as a joke,someone is playing games,seriously.
No i`m not using particle storm,only just got my jan `96 issue of
Computer Graphics World and seen the add from anti-gravity,i had
heard rumors and got mail from the authors but nothing more.
I should have also made it clear that i am transfering my sparks
scenes to my pc from the trusty old 4000`040 with sparks on it .version 2.162.
Once again sorry for the confusion.
If you want a particular effect that you can`t do on your machine
send me a scene with nulls in position with info on what you want
them to do and i`ll try and get my sparks to do it then mail it
back.Ten you  can just use object replace.
p.s try doing a sparks scene the using the object replacment plug in
for some great effects.Flicks of fire ect..

I don`t want to start of on the wrong foot in this group as it is my
main source of news on lw.<he says alone in his dark and dusty ,smoke
filled room.> :-}}


--
Simon Blackledge                                       [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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Subject: Re: A job for Lee
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In message <4habc0$[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Lee Stranahan) writes:


> In article <4h9emm$[e-mail]> Simon Blackledge wrote:
> >Go on ,You`d have a hoot :-}

> Sorry, man - I have films to make.


> Lee Stranahan

Look Forward to seeing em :-}



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From: Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Randomizing in batches
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 08:33:34 -0500
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> >  Well, see, their starting and ending times all have to be the same, or
> >  they'd start drifting out of sync. The idea is to randomly offset all the
> >  keyframes BETWEEN the start and end points by small amounts. To do that,
> >  it's Motion Graph time.
>
>         OK-- shouldn't be too hard to write an AREXX routine that would do that,
>         or a BML-- just whompin' on the LWS ASCII file, eh?
>
> ** [e-mail]

Indeed, indeed my learned friend. A trivial challenge at best for a talented 3D
artist like my esteemed self . . . If I weren't such a friggin' programming
idiot!!! Actually, I *have* painfully hacked my way through some Arexx before,
but I could go in and change the paths by hand in less time than it would take a
dullard like me to write a script.

While we're on the topic, whazzup with your name? I mean, is it Jeric? Or how
about Jeri C? Kindly enlighten us!

--
Andrew Hofman
LumaQuest Productions
[e-mail]
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I agree 100%.  Buy LW, parley (sp?) the money made from your LW anims/logos/etc. into buying 3DS MAX after it's
been out a little while and you get some feedback.  I'd rather spend a small amount to get up and running and
wait for the fallout from the 3D software "WARS" to settle(I just read that even Wavefront/Alias will be
packaging a
system competetive with the Sftimage/NT bundles, although on the SGI platform).
--------------------------------------------
Stranahan wrote:
>
> Unless I'm missing some news, Max is not shipping, no?
>
> Therefore, buy LightWave now. I do not think you will be unhappy.
>
> Let's wait for Max to ship, and THEN see what LightWave's feature set
> is...LW 5.0 (and you can bet there is a 5.0 in the works) isn't shipping
> yet either...
>
> _____________________________________________
> Lee Stranahan
> Q : What do BBQ and better sex have in common?
> A : Lee's new and improved home page!
> URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm

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Can anybody help a new user to Lightwave. I am receiving an error
message whilst using the Boelean Function in modeler ? Message
say's Internal Buffers too small for this operation. How can I
increase the Internal Buffers?

--

Steve Barratt    2 weeks old

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In article <4h9emc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In message <4h8ibd$[e-mail]>
>        Steph Greenberg <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>> 3dsM also has interractive shading (without a card), and its previewing
>> capability is not limited to black wire frames. I also think you can
>> color bones and objects different colors in wire frames. This allows you
>> to turn animation around a bit faster.
>
>Lightwave already does all of the above.
>Get the facts right.
>Yes i am an avid lw user but that is not my reason for the above.
>Imagine you are looking at both systems and take a look at the news
>group for some real-users reviews instead of mags.Get the idea:-{
>
>
>
>--
>Simon Blackledge                                       [e-mail]
>                 Creators of Digital Visual Effects
>                  -----------------------------
>-------------------T.R.A.N.S.M.I.S.S.I.O.N--3D/AV--------------------------
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>                  -----------------------------
>
>
       Max does these things in REAL time. With TEXTURES and transparecney.
Not to overly slag Lightwave, it IS  a good product, but the major difference
will be the speed of either products. MAX will be much faster to use. Not just
faster than  Light Wave in particular. Max is built around speed. The renderer
is all ready twice as fast as befor and does way more in terms of realism
never possible befor in 3DS v4.
    It will also have better tools for film work.V4 had it's limits here
, but no more. And with MAx's speed, it will be even more popular in the Games
market.
    Something to remeber.... 3D software is hard to use and takes a large
investment in time to learn. The program you learn is the program you'll love,
 BECAUSE your familiar with it. I like v4 because I know it. I like Alias'
modeler, it's amazing, but the program itself is a pig. I
    I've been using Max and really like it so far, and it's fast.
mike


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>My point [there is one, you know] is: lighten up. I'm not saying I agree with
>every generalization that the original poster made, but I'm not refuting his
>right to use an allegorical reference to make a point, or, in this case, to
>refute another blanket generalization.


Gord,

Nice post.

My problem with the original post was that he took one example of how a
buisness could fail and basically applied this situation to all software businesses
that go bad.

His tone was that of someone who thinks that so called "bean-counters" almost
want business to come to a halt.

The reason his argument was refuted piece by piece is that he continually wrote
off businessmen as a hindrance to good business.

It's not like there are no sucessful businessmen.

If he had explained his viewpoint like you did instead of his "hey look at me! I'm
a programmer not a suit" attitude, then he wouldnt have gotten such a reaction.

You wrote about the situation, he wrote about himself

GBI




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Steve Barratt ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Can anybody help a new user to Lightwave. I am receiving an error
: message whilst using the Boelean Function in modeler ? Message
: say's Internal Buffers too small for this operation. How can I
: increase the Internal Buffers?

cut out the part you are trying to cut/add/slice... to another layer and
perform it on the fewer polys...there is too much info for the buffers to
handle.


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Koren)
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Subject: Re: "Dual Booting" 95 and NT "HOW????
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[e-mail] wrote:

> I want to boot NT from my syquest,and still keep 95, How do you
> do this???

I dunno, but its a darned good thing you're asking about it in the
lightwave group.

  - steve

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I
>     I can't agree with this analogy more. I'm currently working in a
>company begining this cycle - everyone realizes it's inevitable, even our
>ex-programer CEO - we just figure we'll jump ship when/if it happens. It's
>funny, the artists want more artists, the programers want more
>programmers, and the buisness people want more buisness weenies.. At least
>the artists and programmers seem to agree that we don't need more buisness
>weenies..


Maybe your CEO shouldn't be an ex-programmer.

Have you guys ever heard of working together instead of drawing lines in the sand
and blaming each other for everyone's problems????

At least your artists and programmers have a common enemy. I wonder what
they say about each other to the business faction when the other isn't around.

What have you found to be the better problem solving technique: The "I'm the
Rubber You're the Glue Method" or the "Meet Me at the Bikeracks After Work
Method".

GBI



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>There's been a lot of productive discussion on here, in my opinion. I am,
>of course, very much the same guy on the tapes. Go back and re-read my VTU
>columns - I speak my mind. Sometimes I change my mind, but nobody owns
>me...

You once wrote about how close you were to Montgomery, that he was a
"visionary" with an "infectious" enthusiasm.  You even called him a marketing
genius.  However when you wrote about his departure just a few months later,
you talked of NT marketing campaigns as if they were questionable at best and
that you were excited about where Tim Jenison was going with his ideas for NT.
You said something to the effect of a new energizing feeling was going around at
NT.

The reason I question all this is because, although I think you've been extremely
helpful to many Toaster users, you sometimes go beyond the scope of
"ToasterGuy" and enter the realm of business advisor.  The problem here is that
your opinions on the matter seem to change with your current employer, and not
so much with extended reflections.  Now that you no longer work for NT, your
criticisms seem much more harsh.  It really didn't seem that way when you were
on the payroll.  Montgomery, you felt, was a great guy responsible for an awful lot
of NT's success, until he was gone.  Then you downplayed his role a bit.  Now
that you are gone from NT, you SEEM to be upping the worth Montgomery's
contributions again.

>Submitted for your approval - NewTek has REALLY changed, and some of it
>has not been for the best....my comments reflect that.

NewTek has changed, but unfortunately so has a large portion of the software
industry. It seems when MS and others started making a habit of unrealistic
claims about release dates and then (finally) releasing unfinished or stripped
down versions of their product, other companies followed suit.

In Jan 95 we recived our Flyer, its problems are well documented. It was almost a
year to the day when we received our 4.1b (should be Flyer 1.0). Now we couldn't
be happier. If, back in the fall of 94, we had heard that the Flyer would not have
been out untill summer 95, we still would have waited because at the time, we
trusted NewTek. Now we hear FlyerPC in the fall of 96, and we are budgeting for
spring 97 at the earliest.

Doing it right the first time can never be replaced by clever MKTG, and clever
MKTG can never win back the trust that was created by the Toaster and spread
industry wide by word of mouth. Revolution was pretty good, but everyone I know
bought a toaster because someone showed them how cool it was.  BTW I'm not
trying to downplay the role of marketing. NewTek's does need serious help. Now
that they have a product that works, their marketing will be vital to their sucess.

GBi


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From: Abracadabra <[e-mail]>
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David Koegler <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Is there anyone who has converted rendered lightwave animation files >ANY Toaster files) to PICT format, and been able to load the=
se

>I get is an image 1/9th the screen size on the Mac side.

We've been doing this for almost 3 years w/our VideoCube.  First using MS-DOS formatted Bernoulli's, now Mac.  Originally we used AD=
Pro w/the Pro Conversion Pack's PICT loader/saver, reading Framestore's or IFF's from the Amiga and writing Pict's to the Bernoulli.=
  We then needed to read the Picts and write a Quicktime (the VideoCube take's QT's, not a series of Picts).

Now we put Amiga IFF's on the Mac Bernoulli, read them via DeBabelizer on the Mac, which writes a QuickTime.

You're problem w/the screen size is probably related to the DPI setting of the files.  For 640x480 PICT's, the DPI should be 72.  AD=
Pro has a "Define_Pixel_Aspect" operator that allows setting of this.

Hope this helps!

Randy Jackson
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Glory Boy wrote....

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
You once wrote about how close you were to Montgomery, that he was a
"visionary" with an "infectious" enthusiasm.  You even called him a
marketing
genius.  However when you wrote about his departure just a few months
later,
you talked of NT marketing campaigns as if they were questionable at best
and
that you were excited about where Tim Jenison was going with his ideas for
NT.
You said something to the effect of a new energizing feeling was going
around at
NT.
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Well, let's look at the record here and see if my opinions change
according to my employer - or vice versa. Because, by the way, that's what
actually happens - I

Paul is pretty much a marketing genius - even Tim (who hates his guts)
admits that. At the time, everything looked good at NewTek. So, I was
right when I wrote that.

You're forgetting the column I wrote a few months after that, but well
before the split about the mistakes I thought marketing was making. I was
critical of NewTek in my VTU column a number of times.

When I wrote the column about the Split, Paul hadn't been in close to top
form for months. NewTek was just about to unbundle LightWave and unveil
the Flyer so things looked good. So, I was right when I wrote that.

By the way - I never wrote my VTU column when I was on the NewTek payroll.
I stepped down to avoid conflict of interest, every time. When I'm on
someone's payroll, it's not appropriate to engage in public debate, so I
refrain.

My opinions changed because the facts changed. Watch this - if NewTek
starts doing the right thing with LightWave - I WILL SAY SO.  I always
have. You're impuning my credibilty by saying my opinions change, without
looking at why my opinions change.Take a look at the facts and reconsider.


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: [e-mail] (Kermit Woodall)
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Subject: Re: CHROMA KEY informatio
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Mark Whitney ([e-mail]) wrote:
: You'll still end up with the problems inherent to Chroma keying, but it
: all depends on your live action subject matter.  If you have fine detail
: such as hair, glassware, shadows, etc., you won't be able to hold clean
: edges and detail on everything.
:
: To resolve those sorts of problems, you need to go to an Ultimatte
: process for your live shoot.  Not an inexpensive undertaking, but that's
: where the state of the art is for this sort of thing.  You can also
: record your alpha channel info separtely for doing post compositing too.
:
ImageFX's CineMatte program, for the Amiga only, can also maintain fine
details like hair, smoke, and transparencies like glass and liquids.  We
put a lot of control over the bluescreening process in the program and the
only constraints are that if you want shadows and fine details, you're going
to have to light the screen and the actor properly.

Kermit Woodall
Nova Design, Inc.
[e-mail]

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>I hate answering my own posts.

>Sorry all, the answer was of course, turn off full-size display.
>--
>Gabe Evans
>Transplanted Mancunian
>LW images at http://www.panix.com/~gevans/gallery.html

I am not sure that's the answer!

I have been having a similar problem. In my scene I have two shadow
mapped
spots, each with intensity falloff. I need the soft shadows , ray
traced shadows just won't cut it.

The bug i am encountering is annoying really: a box opens saying :
"Error: Can't allocate image buffer ... 'Continue' ".
No GPF, no crash. Hitting 'enter' proceeds with rendering. This will
occur every 5,6, ... 9 frames - whatever. Constant attendance while
rendering an animation is ludicrous to say the least.

I have rendering display turned off and am saving animation to IFF's.
Using LW 4.0c on P-90 32mbRAM Windows3.11.

Anyone have words of wisdom on this. A work around for the soft shadows
would be good ... I NEED soft shadows for this.

As for the bug, it really is a false alarm - there is no real error
here ...
the saved images are fine once I continue!


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From: [e-mail] (Timothy McFadden)
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Subject: Has anyone checked out Polyform?
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    I just got LightRom3 and it has a demo version of Polyform
(for the PC).  I was wondering if anyone else has checked it out.
Does anyone know of any other comparable program?  Or are there any
reviews on Polyform.

    Thanks,

    Tim


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I'm trying to make a commercial video (rendered in Lightwave) with Adobe
Premiere LE (with a mro dc20 MJPEG-card). The big problem is file size.
100 seconds of SVHS-resolution  animation requires 3.000.000.000 bytes
(3Gb) of discspace. Premiere only accept non-compressed animation files
(tiff or targa). I've got 3 Gb of HD but I must have room for lots of
other files too!

How can I import compressed pictures in a sequence into Premiere? I've
got 2500 still pics at 768x576x24.
Is there some ways to export MJPEG from Lightwave?
Are there some AVI-codecs that LW can export with high quality?

Regards,

Per Swantesson


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From: [e-mail] (The Glory Boys)
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Subject: Re: Need help making LW c
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> > >>Hi.  I'm trying to build a convincing city skyline for a project I'm
> > >>working on.  I've made the buildings and the texture maps for the
> > >>effectr of having "lights" on in the windows.  The texture maps are
> > >>baiscally a series of white boxes against a black background.
> > >>I apply the maps as a luminosity map, the they are invisible.  No
> > >>lights.  Nothing but big, hunks of darkened building.  The maps do
> > not
> > >>show up at all.  This is probably attributed to the fact that there
> > is
> > >>very little light in the scene (takes place at night).  I raised the
> >
> > >>objects luminosity to 100% and still no change.
> > >>Does ANYONE know how I can make this scene have fully lit windows in
> > a
> > >>nighttime enviroment?

I had the same problem about a year and a half ago. I'll see If I can remember
what we did to fix it.

The main problem I see in your situation is the luminosity map. On our building
(seen at night through thick fog) we used fairly comlex image maps and then
planer or qubic surface mapped them onto each plane of the square buildings and
as a cylinder around the sides of the round and oval ones. We then cranked up
the luminosity to at least 100% on all the buildings. In this case it acts as a
contrast and the makes the dark parts of your map darker while maiking the light
parts lighter.

With this technique, the lighted windows were bright enough not to be affected by
specularity or bump map settings. So we set the specularity at 60% or higher
with low gloss. as our POV flies through the city, the cement sides of the
buildings become evedent within the specular highlights. (FYI a sandpaper-like
image will make a good cement bump map)

One more thing, put in lots of point light with a hight intensity falloff to simultae
the glow created by the lights in the building (one or two per building, in front of
for street lighting or in between if your buildings are in rows). I was somewhat new
to lightwave when I did this scene and the use of the point lights made more
difference than any other single element.

OK, two more things, you may want to try a slight tone of yellow to your windows
instead of just white, and add a little fog to help your perspective.

> > >What's the color of the basic surface? If It's a dark color than even
> > >high luminosity is not going to show up well at night.
> > >
> >
> > How I solved this problem was to render my windows with a high
> > transparency
> > setting
> > and stuck my lights in the building (one in each)  but you my want to
> > try 2
> > or 3
> > in a really large shell.  also to get that lights out look you can
> > lower
> > their intensity
> > and adjust the transparency accordingly

I tried this to at first, and it can, with a lot of work look good, but it will be very
slow to render.  It will depend on your render/time constrainst. If you do this, be
carefull that you can't look straight through your building and see out to the other
side! Whenever we used transp or drilled holes, we had to use the box in a box
technique.

Plesee let me know what you think of these tips
Good Luck

GBi


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From: Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]>
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> I should have also made it clear that i am transfering my sparks
> scenes to my pc from the trusty old 4000`040 with sparks on it .version 2.162.
> Once again sorry for the confusion.
>
> Simon Blackledge

It would appear your Amiga version of Sparks can do a few interesting things
not available in the WinNT version. I hope John Tindall gets that remedied
soon. When I spoke with him a couple of weeks ago, he mentioned something
about a major revision in the works.

--
Andrew Hofman
LumaQuest Productions
[e-mail]
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From: Ace Miles <[e-mail]>
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InstntGuts wrote:
>
> >MAX or Lightwave?<
>
> <I am asking the same question.  And would like to [hear] others opinion,
> too. (enough with theNewTek marketing talk, ok)>>
>
> Since 3D Studio MAX hasn't been released yet, I'd hold off on speculating
> exactly what features it will or will not have until you hear an official
> announcement from Autodesk, and have seen the finished product. There are
> several MAX screen shots on Autodesk's WWW page, and also some MAX
> renderings in the Autodesk forum on Compuserve that're really cool.
>
> Avcom Systems, Inc. of Sunnyvale, CA is offering 3D Studio R4 for DOS with
> an automatic MAX migration for $2495 -- and as per Autodesk, you get to
> keep the dongles and disks for both programs. This way, existing 3DS/DOS
> users can continue with their current 3D investment while they get up to
> speed on MAX.
>
> -- Jon

Here's some "features"-
Still all tri-polys
Same old lame rendering engine
Extremely cluttered interface

--
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   [e-mail] (work)  or   [e-mail] (home)
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From: [e-mail] (dean williams)
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Please disregard my previous post about bugs in shadow maps.
I was premature in posting my problem and I apologize.

It seems the shadow mapping was not the problem as I have turned off all
shadowing *and* intensity falloffs and continue to get the
"Error: can't allocate image buffer".
What does this mean?

Lightwave has crashed as well (twice and inconsistently) giving a message:

"Win32s - error
Unhandled exception detected (Code: 0xC0000005 LIGHTWAV.EXE:5571F)"

Sometimes hitting enter will crash ... sometimes not and rendering continues.

For what it's worth, I have an image sequence for the surface of a computer
monitor in the scene:
60 frame loop of 640x480 .iff images.

Sooo ... any ideas.

Thanks
Dean Williams

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So I've built and rendered an animation sequence, I can save it as a
series of .iff files.(according to File Manager)

How can view the finished animation? please help!

The manuals don't seem to help. Do I have to wait for the perception?

LW4.0, pentium 166, 32M, NT3.51

It must surely be something so obvious Newtek don't think it worth
writing about!

Mart.

[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (The Glory Boys)
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Subject: Re: how can equalize velocity in complete motion path?
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>I got problems with Lightwave 4.0 under Win 95. I will make a smoth
>camera flight through a city with the same speed. But I've got different
>velocities between the keyframes. The Lightwave Manual says only, that
>you can use a formula to set the keyframes at the right spot.
>
>Is there any possibility to make a smooth flight on the finished motion
>path?

The only fix I know is to put in what I call Half-Way points. If your speed is off, the
halfway point in distance,  will either be too short or too long vs. the halfway
point, in time. (50% of the time will have gone by but only 25% of the distance
will have been covered, or perhaps 75% if of the distance if you motion is too fast)
To fix your problem adjust your position Half-Ways to match your time
Half-Ways. You may end up dividing your path into a lot of little sections, but
they will smooth your motion out and give you more gradual speed changes

>Are there any plug-ins for this special problem?

If you find any through this please let me know. I know my way works but its a
pain in the a__!

Hope this helps

GBi


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Subject: Light coming through windows pane?
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Here's the problem ...

I am working on a model of my apartment
(http://www.panix.com/~gevans/apt.html) and I want the principal
light source to be sunlight coming through the glass window. The
glass is a transparent polygon, not a hole, and seems to be
blocking the light from coming through. I'm using a spotlight
for the sun, and trace shadows is on. I would like to see
specularity on the glass, that's why I'm not using a hole.

Any takers?
--
Gabe Evans
Transplanted Mancunian
LW images at http://www.panix.com/~gevans/gallery.html

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From: [e-mail] (The Glory Boys)
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Subject: Attn: FLYER OWNERS how to render to clip?
Date: 4 Mar 1996 19:07:02 GMT
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None of us have time to render entire animations at once, so here's my question:
how can you join two or more Flyer clips, or render to the end of a clip? My PAR
is down and I need help!

GBi


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From: [e-mail]
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>   [e-mail] (Dave Paige) writes:
>  [e-mail] wrote:
<< I have 2 machines, 32m and 48m, and everything that renders on
>  >the 48 renders on the 32 only SLIGHTLY slower.
>  >
>  >    This constant "ya gotta have 64 megs" is total crap.
>  >
>
>  Absolutely not true I've done scenes for hire that simply would not
>  render in 48 megs of RAM. To many large textures and large shadow
>  maps. These scenes needed a minimum of 64 megs to render, and even
>  more, (128 on my alpha) to do so with no paging. This 'total crap' as
>  you put it, allowed me to make alot of money.

    Dave, I don't deny that more RAM is better.  But shouldn't adequate
virtual ram allow, uh, "virtually" any scene to render?

    IOW, a system that is correctly configured with adequate virtual
ram should render any scene that is handled (faster) with 64M chip RAM.  Otherwise,
it implies that the virtual ram is not behaving like chip RAM.  And if THAT is
true, we should all know about it so we can avoid pitfalls.
>
>  Dave Paige
>  Alfheim Imaging
>

    (And while more is better, especially in the extreme cases, I've rendered
plenty o' stuff in 32, and like NT a whole lot better than the other flavors of
Windoze, although it still sux IMHO compared to my ancient Amiga.)

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Background images in modeler? any tips?
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>   [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:
>
>  I agree.  However in NewTek's defense, I have only run one other "3D"
>  application under Windows (Autodesk 3D Concepts) and it was dog slow too.
>  OTOH, bezier curves over bitmaps draw rather quickly in Elastic Reality.

    Indeed.  If only there were a way to import the ER curves into LWM.

    >8^(

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave?
Date: 4 Mar 1996 19:33:02 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Michael D. Bartman) writes:

>(that they could have
>  gotten for less if they hadn't been so snobby as to force NewTek into
>  raising the price to make them happy...

    LOL!  Ya got that right:  Jeff J. is DYING  for a chance to spend
    more money!  (No offense, Jeff.)  >8^)  <---note smiley.


>  -- Mike "Corel's products are pretty low quality (bug-wise), but the
>  clear upgrade path snares a lot of folks" Bartman --

    It's VERY interesting to me that you can still get Corel 2 in some
places, and it's about $15.  The corel feature I want the most is the autotrace
plus DXF export, which I believe is in Corel 3, and for less than $50.  Wow!
Pretty slick marketing, IMHO.

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Date: 4 Mar 1996 19:34:39 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Gord Davison) writes:
>  Is the relatively modest price the reason that some people don't take Lightwave
>  seriously as a professional tool? The multitudes of TV and film professionals
>  that use LW in a daily, production environment apparently were not dissuaded by
>  LW's "hobby" price.

    I agree:  I think professionals look at the output, not the price.

>   Gord Davison                      | 2D/3D Animator ¤ Multimedia Designer
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>   Steph Greenberg <[e-mail]> writes:
>  Dudes, computer animation is now a viable career choice, paying in many
>  cases as much as a lawyer or doctor. $1500 for Lightwave is far less than
>  the tuition for most colleges, and it will do alot more for your future
>  earnings than what you learn in school alone. A $1500 investment for a
>  $70,000+ annual salary.

    I'm REALLY doing something wrong.....

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>   Mike May <[e-mail]> writes:
>  You might also look at Incriber CG for more traditional CG and
>  Autodesk's Animator Studio for nicely animated 2D text. Animator Studio
>  works great for generating an animated LW clip map image sequence. I
>  also use it for rotoscoping(of sorts) LW frames for output to video or
>  avi.

    Hmmmm, Mike, I still think (?) that AAS doesn't do what I want:
maintain strings & paragraphs like a Chyron or equivalent.

    Thanks anyway:  I've got to start playing w/AAS again.
>
>  Mike
>
>>>>


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Go to the velocity graph - Use the right mouse button to move frames in
time. Use the Tension controls to adjust the curves (Hit 't')

I'd suggest using as few key frames as possible..



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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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In article <4hf3d6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>NewTek has changed, but unfortunately so has a large portion of the software
>industry. It seems when MS and others started making a habit of unrealistic
>claims about release dates and then (finally) releasing unfinished or
stripped
>down versions of their product, other companies followed suit.

That explains everything!  The reason the Flyer is not on the PC is
 *MICROSOFT'S* fault!

- John


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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
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Subject: Re: Questions about SAAB Hamerhead Surfaces
Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:40:37 -0500
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Karl Denham did the surfacing in Photoshop - just a bunch of work on a
nice dirty map, mainly....




_____________________________________________
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From: [e-mail] (InstntGuts)
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<<(I just read that even Wavefront/Alias will be packaging a system
competetive with the Sftimage/NT bundles, although on the SGI platform).>>

I've heard from a couple of sources that some dealers are offering
SGI/Alias bundles where the price of an Alias Power Animator license is
*$5,000* (when you subtract the hardware costs). If true, then at that
price, SGI is essentially dumping Alias on the market in an attempt to
sell machines and keep the cost of their hardware high. (It's funny --
when SGI/Alias finds out that you're using 3D Studio in your shop, for
example, their salesmen will practically beg you to buy their hardware.
They'll offer you a zillion deals -- everything from free Studio Paint
thrown in to t-shirts and mouse pads -- to get you to switch.) That's the
primary reason SGI bought Alias and Wavefront in the first place -- if you
make razors, try to buy up all the razorblade factories, too. (And try to
ignore those people using electric shavers running under Windows NT.) <G>

-- Jon

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<<Here's some "features"-
Still all tri-polys
Same old lame rendering engine
Extremely cluttered interface>>

Wrong, wrong, and generally considered wrong by everyone who's used MAX.

There are plenty of MAX screen shots, rendered images and feature lists
available now, so it should be relatively easy to check the facts before
making these incorrect statements.

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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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THat is odd... My demo version of Intel Premier accepts JPEG, QuickTime
CinePack, Intel Compressed, AVI CinePack,Intel Compressed as well as
uncompressed formats.

I always assumed that LightWave would take advantage of any codec that
was installed in the Video for Windows operating system..including third
party codecs...

How do other people get their animations to tape if this is not the case??



--
----------------------------------
Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz

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From: "Donna, Michael" <[e-mail]>
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We're trying to render a LW animation as a Flyer clip.  We install the
appropriate plug-in and set it up to render automatically.  It renders one
frame.  I watch as it writes the rendered frame to one of the Flyer A/V
drives.  There's definitely disk activity.  Then the monitor indicates that
it is sorting polygons.  And that's the end of it.  The computer freezes.

If I reboot and open up the Flyer and look for what there is of the clip, I
find the saved icon with the title we assigned to it.  But when I try to look
at it, there's nothing to it.  The Flyer identifies it as Mystery Clip.

Now there's an abundance of polygons in this animation.  So I thought that
maybe it was too much for the system to handle.  We have an Commodore Amiga
4000 with 32 megs of ram.  Even so, I figured I'd try to conserve resources
by using the Flyer 4.1 custom start-up that allows Lightwave to open without
the Flyer sequencer.  But when I do this, I get a text message that says
something about error 26 on line 81, and the program won't execute.

Help.

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From: Mario Cascio <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Attn: FLYER OWNERS how to render to clip?
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The Glory Boys wrote:
>
> None of us have time to render entire animations at once, so here's my question:
> how can you join two or more Flyer clips, or render to the end of a clip? My PAR
> is down and I need help!
>
> GBi


You have two options:

    1) Purchase a program called Control Tower.  This allows you to join
multiple clips together, so you can interupt your rendering sessions and pick
them up later without have several different icons.

    2) This is what I do, I render each frame and save them as iff's to
my hard drive.  I can interrupt rendering and pick up where I left off.  Once
the entire scene's frames have been rendered, go into project/files on your
flyer screen.  Select volumes. Next goto the directory work:newtek/arexx.
Now select iff2clip.  This allows you to compile the frames into a clip.  It
takes about 7 seconds per frame.  Pretty speedy.

Hope this helps.

Mario Cascio
ProMotion
414-697-1979

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From: [e-mail] (Gord Davison)
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[e-mail] (The Glory Boys) wrote:

>My problem with the original post was that he took one example of how a
>buisness could fail and basically applied this situation to all software businesses
>that go bad.

Quite right. Generalizations: the bane of our existence.

>His tone was that of someone who thinks that so called "bean-counters" almost
>want business to come to a halt.
>
>The reason his argument was refuted piece by piece is that he continually wrote
>off businessmen as a hindrance to good business.
>
>It's not like there are no sucessful businessmen.
>
>If he had explained his viewpoint like you did instead of his "hey look at me! I'm
>a programmer not a suit" attitude, then he wouldnt have gotten such a reaction.
>
>You wrote about the situation, he wrote about himself
>
>GBI
>
Yes, you're quite correct. Unfortunately, "business men" are being given a bad rap
on this newsgroup these days after Seqqual blithely declared that "business men"
need not possess any computer knowledge, industry awareness, ... <sigh> I don't want
to talk about it any more. You probably know the story. Suffice to say, everyone was
pretty much whipped into a jingoistic fervour [myself included] against these arguments,
causing an unintentional backlash against the poor "business men".

In retrospect, there probably should have been a few more disclaimers in the original
post clarifying the rather cartoon-like and allegorical content. However, I *hope* that
the arguments presented in the original post were written somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

OTOH, the sometimes shoddy relations between programmers, artists, marketing-types,
and "suits" <G> typify the "us-versus-them" bunker mentality that exists in many
companies. I've know because I've *lived* it. I guess that's why true _team_ players
are so highly sought after. I would hasten to add -- in my experience -- as both a
programmer and an animator/graphic artist, I've been privy to the "bitching" about
one group from another that others might not hear about. It can get pretty ugly.

Sometimes ignorance _is_ bliss ;-)

==========================================================================
 Gord Davison                      | 2D/3D Animator ¤ Multimedia Designer
 Phoenix Interactive Design, Inc.  |
 graphics ¤ animation ¤ multimedia |   "Complex problems have simple,
 [e-mail]             | easy-to-understand, wrong answers."
==========================================================================

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HI all. Say, is there a way to set 720 x 480 as the default instead of
1024 x 768? Thanks. Happy Trails....TM

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I know I don't usaully post, but I just couldn't ignore this one.  This
group has been a valuable resource to all of us...I'd hate to see it
dissolve.

[e-mail] (Sean Huxter) wrote:
>->EVERYBODY HIT THE DIRT!<-
>
>That's it, I'm OUTA here. When did this Lightwave forum become a place
>for Lee and his 'Enemies' to fight it out?

I hope this doesn't mean that you are leaving the newsgroup.  According to
my newsreader there are ~2000 messages on this group.  Although there are
a lot of posts on the "Lee and his 'Enemies'" subject, I'd say it takes up
about 10 - 15% of the bandwidth.  I sometimes read those posts, but,
typically, I scan the other 85 - 90% which is generally good LW/video
info.  I invite you to join me.


-Lyle Milton





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    > As a recent member of the online world and this
    > group, I've been amazed at the level of animosity that seems
    > to exist between Lee Stranahan and companies that he used
    > to be involved with. (I know, I know, Lee's not resentful, he
    >
    > A few days ago, I ran into an ex-NewTek employee
    > who lives in my area (Kansas City) and we ended up talking
    > about NewTek and the Toaster, LightWave and, eventually,
    > Lee. I heard a very different side of the Lee Stranahan
    >
    > As I said earlier, the person telling me these juicy
    > details WAS a NewTek employee. But I couldn't tell what ax
    > he had to grind now, and it was presented in a truthful
    > manner. Maybe Lee can comment?    :)
    >
    > Bob Stingly
    > Video Wizard Productions
    >

I have been looking for a new 3D animation program and have been following and
posting on this newsgroup for a few months. I have come across this thread
without knowing all the facts about Lee Stranahan and Newtek nor do I care, but
I must make a statement in his defense.

 He has replied to me on this newsgroup and personally many times to my
questions about which 3d programs to purchase and all where in Newteks favor. I
can't help but think that Lee is very sincere in wanting Lightwave to succeed
and improve. But it seems he feels NewTek is not going in the right direction
for there product. I happen to agree that someone care about a product they
invest there time and money in it and feel compel to comment or criticize it.

 There is always two sides to a story. Personal attacks like the above are not
very productive and usually always have an ax to grind. This newsgroup should
return to a more productive discussion about the 3d industry and animation
techniques.
As a 3D novice this is MHO.


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I know I don't usaully post, but I just couldn't ignore this one.  This
group has been a valuable resource to all of us...I'd hate to see it
dissolve.

[e-mail] (Sean Huxter) wrote:
>->EVERYBODY HIT THE DIRT!<-
>
>That's it, I'm OUTA here. When did this Lightwave forum become a place
>for Lee and his 'Enemies' to fight it out?

I hope this doesn't mean that you are leaving the newsgroup.  According to
my newsreader there are ~2000 messages on this group.  Although there are
a lot of posts on the "Lee and his 'Enemies'" subject, I'd say it takes up
about 10 - 15% of the bandwidth.  I sometimes read those posts, but,
typically, I scan the other 85 - 90% which is generally good LW/video
info.  I invite you to join me.


-Lyle Milton





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From: [e-mail] (Dan Nessel)
Subject: Royalty Free Graphics on the Web
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Hi All,

If anyone is interested in some royalty free sports graphics - for
free, then check out this site...

    http://www.ios.com/~nesseld/pve1.htm

You will find some toaster images (752x480) that you can download and
use in all your sports video productions.  Don't worry - if you
currently don't do sports productions this site will tell you how to
get started :)




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From: [e-mail] (Ronald Renes)
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Can anyone please tell me how to handle plugins...
If got a few, but I don't know how to use them.
When I "install" a plugin (for example explode) it tells me that it is
succesfully loaded. When I try to use it with an object, I can't find
any plugins... anyone... please????

Also, I'm sure there must be some way to create movies (avi or
quicktime or something) rather then lots of stills. Anyone has an
answer on this one too???

I would greatly appreciate it...


Regards,

Ronald



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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lee Stranahan's Story Smells Fishy
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Let me say one more thing in my defense, even though I REALLY want to
thank everyone who has posted here....

I do not believe 'R Stingly' is a real person. I think this post was a
plant, from someone who wants to shut me up. And I think that rather than
just posting in their own name, they made up a profile. I could be wrong,
but it doesn't seem like I am for reasons I posted in another thread.

So - people are actually trying to get me in a very underhanded way. In my
opinion, this is AWFUL -maybe I take it personally, but it really sucks
that I'm singled out for this crap. There have been a number of random
attacks on me lately, and I really wonder if there is a pattern. The
attacks seem to be coming from people who have never posted before on any
subject....funny, they always say that I never talk about anything else...

Who is it? I don't know, but some people can't respond with argument so
they try and destroy my character. Whoever you are, you're a coward...


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: [e-mail] (MarcICIB)
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We are currently developing a Motion Tracking System for Lightwave 4.0 it
has the feature over a Plugin to animate your bodys in the Layouter. I' m
very intresting on your ideas for a good and usabel Plugin. So if you got
any coments please send us a E-Mail. We are also looking for Beta- Testers
in Summer 96, so if you are intrested please write us. The technical Datas
are right know about 5m to 10m range on receiving Data. The System can
handele abaut 255 Sensors. 20 Sensors will be included an can be upgraded
easily for more Sample Points. The accurate thems to be at 1cm but we are
working on it. The Sampling rate isn't  know jet. So please send us
comment's to develop a usefull tool. Please Send the E-Mail to
[e-mail].
 Thanks for supporting us.

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  Author unknown,
|>>That's it, I'm OUTA here. When did this Lightwave forum become a place
|>>for Lee and his 'Enemies' to fight it out?
|>
|>I hope this doesn't mean that you are leaving the newsgroup.  According to
|>my newsreader there are ~2000 messages on this group.  Although there are
|>a lot of posts on the "Lee and his 'Enemies'" subject, I'd say it takes up
|>about 10 - 15% of the bandwidth.  I sometimes read those posts, but,
|>typically, I scan the other 85 - 90% which is generally good LW/video
|>info.  I invite you to join me.
|>
|>
|>-Lyle Milton
|>   I agree with Lyle. I stopped posting to these threads because I realized
  it is counterproductive. However to quit the group altogether would seem
  a little extreme .

   -bill

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From: Daniel Bernard <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PAR over network for SN?
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 19:20:42 -0600
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leelee wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Wanna B 3D) wrote:
> I can render direct to the PAR card on my Amiga from the PC, this does
> not need the use of screamernet.
>
> My use of the SN is that I can get the PC to be the controller and the
> amiga as a render engine (Rnode). This works as long as I save the
> frames to the Amiga hard drive, not tried to the PAR card yet and will
> not because they dont render in order. I'm running a NT PC (180Mhz
> Pentium) and a 68040 Amiga (27Mhz) and the PC renders about 6:1 and
> the PAR card expects the frames in order. If you can overcome this
> little probem I would be interested.....
> Don.....
>
> >I have 2 computers networked for the sole purpose of rendering via
> >ScreamerNet.  The problem is; I can't get windows (3.11 OR win95 for that
> >matter) to recognize my PAR as a legitimate hard drive.  Under win3.11 I
> >can share the PAR drive, the other node (windows95) says that the drive is
> >not accessable.
>
> >Is anybody out there using SN to render directly to their PAR drive?!
> >Please help.
> For Amiga...
You could write a quick and dirty AREXX script that will check the
target directory on your Amiga HD and wait for the next sequential
frame to be rendered... (ie: the script would wait for frame 1 to finish
and then send it to the PAR-Drive for importing, then it would wait for
frame 2 and send it... so on and so on till the scene is finished...
that way the pentium can render as fast as it wants.


For PC...
I know this works because when I first got the PAR for my PC I could not
get LW to render directly to it but I could import from my C: drive.
So I wrote a quick little program in Visual Basic that watched a certain
directory for the next sequentail file and then Imported it to the PAR.
Worked like a charm without taking up to many resources.
Hope this helps....

Daniel Bernard

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From: [e-mail] (CNelson)
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Finally, the Lightwave 3D Internet Users Gallery is online.

I still need submissions for the gallery to grow, so please stop by and
consider contributing materials.

http://www.iag.net/~cnelson/lw3d.htm


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From: [e-mail]
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>   [e-mail] (Phillip Finch) writes:
>  Back in the early 80's one of the popular word processors was a
>  program called WordStar that used dozens of keystroke combinations for
>  formatting, selection, block moves, etc--the usual  stuff. A huge pain
>  in the ass, very primitive. Yet there are still WordStar users out
>  there who swear by the program. Those keystroke combinations are
>  hardwired into their brains by now, and they can really make  it
>  scream when performing  basic WP functions.

    This is a VERY interesting inteface question, to me at least.  Some
interfaces are going to be very good at some tasks, other interfaces at
another.  AND, you don't know until you actually MASTER the program which is
which .  (OK, except for the obvious ones.)

    The recurring debate over, say, R3d VS the rest of the world is a case
in point.  R3d afficionados swear by their powerful program, while detractors
say they haven't got time to fight the interface.  I know that when I was
forced  to use Imagine, I wanted to travel to Canada and crucify the programmers.

    Interface is also often confused with "features", and indeed the
interface IS a feature.  (So you can see how confused >I< am....8^)

    Pour moi, LW and LWM combine a good BALANCE of power and useability.
TS seems to have great useability with little power, while R3d has great power
but little useability.  (Gleaned from the 'net.)

    If Wordstar users can make it scream, even in comparison to, say,
Word 6.00, which has the better interface?  Which has the better features?

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From: [e-mail](Joe Schrengohst )
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In <4hfu22$[e-mail]> Lyle Milton
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>I know I don't usaully post, but I just couldn't ignore this one.
This
>group has been a valuable resource to all of us...I'd hate to see it
>dissolve.
>
>[e-mail] (Sean Huxter) wrote:
>>->EVERYBODY HIT THE DIRT!<-
>>
>>That's it, I'm OUTA here. When did this Lightwave forum become a
place
>>for Lee and his 'Enemies' to fight it out?
>

Lee,

Please get on with your life and return this newsgroup to it's
regularly scheduled program. I know you are a valuable asset
to the lightwave community so please drop these silly threads
and return to giving out tips and advice regarding Lightwave.
I know you don't personally keep them going but you are the source from
which they start.

Thanks,
Joe Schrengohst
Channel 3 Productions

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From: Gwynne Reddick <[e-mail]>
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In article: <4hfkfu$[e-mail]>  [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie) writes:
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> From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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> Date: 4 Mar 1996 20:40:30 GMT
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> THat is odd... My demo version of Intel Premier accepts JPEG, QuickTime
> CinePack, Intel Compressed, AVI CinePack,Intel Compressed as well as
> uncompressed formats.

Premiere only accepts JPEGS as single images, if you want to load a few
thousand of them you end up with a few thousand clips in the clip window.
It only eccepts Targa, Tiffs and BMP`s as  sequences.
>
> I always assumed that LightWave would take advantage of any codec that
> was installed in the Video for Windows operating system..including third
> party codecs...

It does, I render all my previews using the Miro codec for my dc1.
Gwynne
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I have updated/modernized my personal Web pages, and they can be accessed
at the following URL:

      http://www.mktplace.net/people/bhood/

Comments are welcomed.  The Plugin page lists all the "hard" plugins
I've done for LightWave and provides easy downloading of these plugins.

The link for the Virutal Visions Web pages doesn't work yet.  Stay tuned.

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 That's pretty cool, is this a plugin for lightwave? (The site claims custom
 rendering software). Will it be commercial product or just for in-house?

    Ed

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From: [e-mail] (GoonBag)
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Subject: Re: Questions about SAAB Hamerhead Surfaces
Date: 5 Mar 1996 01:13:48 -0500
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Kurt Harmel wrote:

>The Nov. issue of Video Toaster carried a fine article
>on the effects and crew behind Space Above and Beyond.
>On p.62 there's a nice pic of a hammerhead with a nifty
>surface for the main body. The diffuse map at least, seems to differ
>from the shot taken of the same ship on p.65. Does anyone have any
>specific info on how they achieved the former surface(s)?

>Thanks.

   The Hammerhead model has about 40 Texture maps on it. Most of them are
custom maps painted to fit the specific parts. Each surface has a color
map which has most of the dirt and wear, markings etc. The reason the
model looks different from different angles is because of the specular map
which gives the model it's scratchy metallic feel.
   Depending on how the light is hitting the model the specular map is
either more or less apparent. The diffuse channel is not used. This allows
us to use diffuse maps for specific shots where a Hammerhead might need to
be battle damaged or burnt.
   There is also a bump map which has all of the panel lines and hatches
as well as dings, scratches and dents. The Hammerhead was modeled by Ken
Stranahan. Part of the reason why we can get so close to the model is due
to the highly detailed textures. The other reason is because of Ken's
excellent modelling job. Great textures usually don't work on a crappy
model.
   Both of the pictures you mention use the same model with the same
textures. They are just lit differently.

Hope this answers your questions.

Karl

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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
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Here's a stupid semi-answer....create a 'blank' scene file with a number
of parameters set just the way you like, but no objects....

For instance, I almost always do test in LowRes, turn Amb Light to 0%,.
Save files to my D: drive, etc etc....do all that, save the scene, then
reload as needed....


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
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Subject: Re: User Interface:  was Re: MAX or Lightwave?
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Some
>interfaces are going to be very good at some tasks, other interfaces at
>another.  AND, you don't know until you actually MASTER the program which is
>which .  (OK, except for the obvious ones.)

Yeah. And even then, it's only true for you.

>    If Wordstar users can make it scream, even in comparison to, say,
>Word 6.00, which has the better interface?  Which has the better features?

Some good questions. And I think the answers will vary from one user
to another. If a program does what you want, and you've learned how to
use it so that it requires almost no conscious effort, then it's
probably the best for you, provided you're happy with a possibily
limited set of features and capabilities. Somebody who knows the
keystrokes in Wordstar can probably do some very impressive text
editing. He'll be in big trouble, though, if he wants to format a
feature film script or lay out a two-column page with a couple of
pieces of clip art.

But computers aren't just about getting work done. They're also about
expanding your head and doing things you've never done before--things
you might not have imagined a few years ago.

Frankly, anybody who can use the same program day in and day out for
eight or ten years and not feel the urge to try something new and
different or more ambitious--even at the cost of the hassles and lost
productivity that almost always come with an unfamiliar app--is
probably a hopeless drone.

In general, I think interface issues are way overblown: they're far
less important that features and reliability. We don't all think,
work, and perceive the same way, so there's no single "right"
interface choice. Human beings are adaptable creatures: we can get
comfortable with almost anything, and that includes a variety of
computer interfaces. A GUI--almost any GUI--is a huge improvement over
the alternative. Beyond that, it's mainly a matter of taste,
individual predilection, and habit.



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From: [e-mail] (Rose Haupt)
Subject: Re: Need CHARACTER GENERATOR s/w
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In article <3135fb0e.226409@news>, [e-mail] says...
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>>I'm looking for some character generation software for the PC. (bleah)
>>
>>Using Photoshop/other paint programs is lame because (of course) they
are not STRING ORIENTED.
>>Basically what I'm looking for is something that works like a
traditional character generator.

Before getting my Toaster, I had used ProVideo Gold - a dedicated
character generator program (for Amiga only, so sorry).  It was exactly
modeled on traditional generators, was VERRRRRRRY fast, flexible, great
effects and supper smooth.  The orignal version, Provideo, ran great on a
1 meg A500.  The Gold version added some nice features and fonts, and
required (as I recall) 1 meg of video RAM and 2 megs of system RAM.

Now, after using my Toaster for 5 years for character generation, I still
go back to ProVideo Gold anytime I need fast, flexible, and generally
outstanding CG.  However, as it totally conflicts with the Toaster, I run
it in a seperate machine.

If CG is what your main thrust is, this is worth checking out.  With the
Amiga's double buffering, nothing I've seen on a P133 even comes close to
the speed and smoothness.

Tim Haupt
Mind's Eye Productions
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>In article <4gvsap$[e-mail]> [e-mail]

>(MICHAEL C. LING) writes:

>>to re-draw.  Is there anything else I can do BESIDES going to lower
>>resolution desktops and smaller windows in modeler?

(Walter (Jay) Turberville )' wrote:
>===============================
>Yes.  Get a P166.
>

Oh you're no help... :')

Actually I think all the difference a 166mhz machine might make is a 40%
increase in speed meaning one minute re-draws instead of two.  Faster
machines won't mean much until they're many multiples faster. I suspect the
only answer to my problem may be using lower resolutions in modeler and/or
virtual desktops.

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On Mar 02, 1996 00:02:18 in article <Re: Background images in modeler? any
tips?>, '[e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)' wrote:
.
>You squeeze a little and you get some; you squeeze more and you get more.
>There's a finite amount of water there, but if you apply reasonable
>pressure you can get it all.  Getting performance from Windows is like
>getting blood from a stone.  At first I thought it was impossible, but I

Some stones will give you petroleum when you squeeze them.   :^)

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Subject: Re: Adobe Premiere + LW = problems!
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        Gwynne Reddick <[e-mail]> writes:

> In article: <4hfkfu$[e-mail]>  [e-mail]
(Adam Ives Chrystie) writes:
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> > Subject: Re: Adobe Premiere + LW = problems!
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> > THat is odd... My demo version of Intel Premier accepts JPEG, QuickTime
> > CinePack, Intel Compressed, AVI CinePack,Intel Compressed as well as
> > uncompressed formats.

> Premiere only accepts JPEGS as single images, if you want to load a few
> thousand of them you end up with a few thousand clips in the clip window.
> It only eccepts Targa, Tiffs and BMP`s as  sequences.
> >
> > I always assumed that LightWave would take advantage of any codec that
> > was installed in the Video for Windows operating system..including third
> > party codecs...

> It does, I render all my previews using the Miro codec for my dc1.
> Gwynne
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If your running nt,use the ntavi codec,when you render choose the
codec you want .load that into premiere and edit it away.I`m confused
because that dosn`t seem like a hard thing to do.
Explain again:-}


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Appreciate the tips!

I have set the DPS to 72, square pixels ad 640x480 in LW, but nothing
works in ImageFX.

But you are right about Debabelizer (named after the tower of Babel), as
the Avid newsgroup lit up with several folks with the same problem with
conversion, and they were happy, I mean HAPPY with this program. I've
ordered it and hope all goes well.

Currently using CrossMac and a Syquest 135 removable.

Another really helpful guy out therre is Aaron Estrada.

Cheers,

Dave


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I am running LW Alpha version and it came with a utility called iff2clip
and it's been working so far for me. Newtek supposedly had a version for
the pentium posted on their BBS and was pulled down because of some bugs
it had.

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+-- [e-mail] (Chris Golchert) writes:
| Is there anyone who knows how to get ahold of a plugin mailing list
| subscription...or a newsgroup....?

Send "subscribe lwplugin-l" to [e-mail].
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Lee,

Please get on with your life and return this newsgroup to it's
regularly scheduled program. I know you are a valuable asset
to the lightwave community so please drop these silly threads
and return to giving out tips and advice regarding Lightwave.
I know you don't personally keep them going but you are the source from
which they start.
------------------------------------------------


I am not the source for -this- shit, and I wish to god someone would start
recognizing that. This thread in particular is just a personal attack to
get me to shut up by making me look bad. Judging from your post, it's
working. It's absurd to me that I look like the bad guy...

I'll stand by what I contribute to the newsgroup. What the hell has Brad
Parscale contributed other then slamming me? How about 'R Stingly'? Who's
answered more questions about LightWave techniques here in this forum, me
or all of Area 51 combined?

 I have clear positions on a number of issues, and I defend them with cold
hard facts. But it seems like any Tom, Dick, or Stingly can come up say...
    "Lee, I guess you used to sort of do stuff, but please stop talking
about
     (Area 51, NewTek Marketing, Play Etc). P.S. - I hear you are
     overweight and have bad teeth. A former co-worker (who I won't name)
also said
     you used to swear in meetings and would have been fired if you hadn't
     quit first."
And these are people who contribute NOTHING EVER to this group, save for
telling me to stop defending my reputation.

Sorry, but I am not going to let charlatans and liars have the last word.


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Background images in modeler? any tips?
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On Mar 01, 1996 22:13:21 in article <Re: Background images in modeler? any
tips?>, 'Mike May <[e-mail]>' wrote:


>As far as speed goes for tracing bitmaps on a PC...
.
.
.
>Doing it this way may seem half baked, but I can get a very workable shape

>into modeler in minutes. Once it's in modeler, I can either cleanup the
DXF,
>or if needs to be more articulate, begin construction using the DXF as a
>template in a background layer, which refreshes MEGA faster than the
bitmap
>approach.

I use the bG image to keep track of scale. Maybe I will do my design
sketches in a drawing program and import them in as dxf files, either that
or find a program that can trace raster images into vector. I think having
a vector drawing in a background layer will certainly be faster than a BG
image.

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[e-mail] (James Jones/Nibbles and Bits) writes:

>[e-mail](alan said:

>>In <4h5nga$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MRucht) writes:
>>>
>>>A LW texture mapping question?
>>>
>>>I have a sphere with spikes protruding from it and want to
>>>have the tips a sort of steel yellow blending into a violet gray
>>>of the sphere itself.  I cant figure out what method of mapping
>>>would allow me to ramp colors from the outside to the inside of
>>>the sphere.
>>>
>>>A plea to the experts.

    Well it may be a little  late by now
I posted a fairly convoluted method to do this via morphing
Of course what I MEANT to say was
    Use the dot color texture.

    Steven (Who is now going to write 1000 times
            "I will think before responding to questions" :-)

>>
>>Grid Texture map on the Surface Color, Grid Size at 1.0, and a falloff
>>value depending on the size of your spikes. Outer color is specified as
>>the Surface color, and inner color is the Texture color.

>   Would that not present a bit of a problem, since falloff is not
>spherical?
>   In other words, the colors would falloff at different rates on
>the spikes depending if the spike was near parallel to a particular
>axis as opposed to being 45 degrees off axis.
>   (That's one thing I wish Allen et al. would do... make a
>spherical falloff. Surely the current machines are now fast enough
>to handle the extra computations.)
>
>   As to the spikes, you could always model one as a separate object
>and place clones around the sphere in Layout. Surfacing would then
>be a simple matter.
>
>   -Jim
>
>James G. Jones
>Nibbles & Bits
>[e-mail]
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Mike Ling said:
====================
>> >I started to use bg images in modeler and I've been finding that they
take
>> >a large amount of time to draw or re-draw onscreen, about a minute or
two
>> >on a pentium 100, at  one-quarter of a 1600x1280 screen. Every time I
>> >re-center, or resize or magnify/demagnify, I have to wait for my work
area
>> >to re-draw.  Is there anything else I can do BESIDES going to lower
>> >resolution desktops and smaller windows in modeler?


On Feb 29, 1996 00:22:27 in article <Re: Background images in modeler? any
tips?>, 'Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]>' wrote:
=======================
>I'm using two Raptor3's and experience the same problem. Redrawing of
images
>in Modeler is dog-slow. Not as bad as what the gentleman describes with
his
>P100, but still ridiculously sluggish. No other program has exhibited such

>abysmal screen redrawing on my machines, including 24-bit paint and
>image-processing software. In fact, they are all extremely fast. Would you

>suggest I also get a P166?

I am guessing modeler is re-scaling and cropping the image on the fly.
Modeler isn't DOOM so I expect its raster graphics re-scaling routines are
much much much MUCH slower. I wonder if modeler has any routines that use
precalculated tables. Pre-calculated tables probably have enough precision
for most screen resolutions, especially in magnify mode.

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From: [e-mail] (Wilfried Kurth)
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You must understand that my English isn´t so good , because I am a twelve years
old German boy.

I am searching for a Perception PVR 3500 PAL. Who can sell it to me for a
low price ? The price should be from 0-2995 Dollars.

I am searching for Lightwave tips , objects , scenes , surfaces and tips
to make this damn rendering faster , too !

Who can tell me which Animation-Prog is the best ?
I can not understand why SoftImages price is 7500 Dollars
and Lightwaves price is only 800 Dollars. I think I could do with Lightwave
all that what I can do with SoftImage.


PS: Please do not answer to my E-Mail adress !


Christian Klauss

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Subject: Re:  Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
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> You once wrote about how close you were to Montgomery, that he was a
> "visionary" with an "infectious" enthusiasm.  You even called him a
> marketing genius.  However when you wrote about his departure just a
> few months later, you talked of NT marketing campaigns as if they were
> questionable at best and that you were excited about where Tim Jenison
> was going with his ideas for NT.  You said something to the effect of a
> new energizing feeling was going around at NT.

Wait a second... NT=NewTek in this context, right? Sorry I was confused
for a second there.

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> Here's the problem ...
>
> I am working on a model of my apartment
> (http://www.panix.com/~gevans/apt.html) and I want the principal
> light source to be sunlight coming through the glass window. The
> glass is a transparent polygon, not a hole, and seems to be
> blocking the light from coming through. I'm using a spotlight
> for the sun, and trace shadows is on. I would like to see
> specularity on the glass, that's why I'm not using a hole.

Number one you don't want the window to cast a shadow, self shadow or
recieve shadow, right? So why not turn those options off in the object
menu? Also if the window has a colour to it you should turn the colour
filter on in the surface menu.

Phil
Transplanted Hertfordshire man living in Somerset

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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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Mornin all,
           Just wondered if any one has been able to replicate the
water on the front of lw-pro <the one with the bouy and ship in distance>
I  tried the cracks texture but the specularity looks naff.You can
tell its a fake hi-light<which are really just reflections of light sources>
Did he perhaps reflect a large sphere behind the camera?

Suggestions welcome.
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Last year I saw that Lightwave and the Toaster were coming to 95 & NT.
While I've seen lots of articles on LW, I've heard nothing on the Toaster
aside from a few Newtek ads on the Toaster Flyer/95.  Has anyone used or
seen the VT/95?  I'm really hot to get a desktop system to ad to my
business and last year it looked like VT had by far the most bang for the
buck.  Who are the players now?
-Dave
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>  I have clear positions on a number of issues, and I defend them with cold
> hard facts.
>
> Lee Stranahan

I should know better than to get into this thread, but here goes . . .

Lee, you're fighting a losing battle. I have seen a number of individuals
reacting emotionally to your posts and choosing "facts" at random that were
never in your original messages. It appears they hurriedly read through your
posts, getting all worked up, then react to what they THINK you have written.
So you fire off another post in response, refuting them point by point, which
they or someone else again reads only superficially before getting all upset.
For the same reason, I've found it impossible to engage many people in a
rational debate over hot-button issues. Usually they get red in the face and
things degenerate into a screaming match. I'll often play devil's advocate and
take a position I don't necessarily believe, just to test the strength of an
argument, but some people just can't handle that and completely blow up. I
suggest you are running into the same problem here. If that's the case, you're
never gonna push that rock up the hill. I see you beginning to repeat yourself,
and others still not actually READING before responding.

--
Andrew Hofman
LumaQuest Productions
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: Send "subscribe lwplugin-l" to [e-mail].

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Gabe Evans ([e-mail]) wrote:

window ??? snipped

turn on ray trace shadows and you MUST use a raytraced light source not a
shadow mapped one.  I've got beautiful stained glass windows on a few of
my objects.  They light up the scene in all the different colors.

Chris


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In article <4h70bo$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tim Gunn) writes:


>A major factor that both of you forgot to mention was the operating system on
>the PC. Under windows95 Lightwave runs considerably slower than under NT for
>which it was designed. I recently sold my amiga to upgrade my PC and I have no
>regrets. The rendering time of my pc out performed my Amigas by about 10 to 1
>and the even taking the cpu's into account, however i do notice a big slow down
>in the modellers redraw time. I would say that the reason, for this is a poor
>port on NewTek's part, plus the fact i am running win95 under lightwave.
>Anyway, no comparison can be made anymore as the amiga is still stuck with
>040's and a few 060's while pc's have Pentium 133's and P6's. It is sad really
>as the Amiga had so much more potential than the PC.

Well, I didn't mention it because (based on posted information) I'm pretty
sure that isn't true.  Win 95 used to be slow when rendering from Layout but
was almost as fast as NT when rendering from ScreamerNet.  With the release of
Rev. C (and there is a patch on ftp.newtek.com so Rev. A and B users can
upgrade), this difference is virtually gone.

I'm not sure about modeler screen updates, but someone here mentioned that
even their Raptor 3 was slower than it ought to be considering all the muscle
it has.  That is NT on an Alpha, so the comparison may not be valid.  Anyway,
I havent' heard anybody say that Modeler  updates faster under NT than
95.  If it is true (by a significant margin) then that would be great and
certainly does bear mentioning.  I just don't think it is true though.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

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From: "Scott R. Mercill" <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I want to boot NT from my syquest,and still keep 95, How do you
> do this???


I have never tried this on a syquest but on a fixed hard drive the task is simple.  From Windows 95 in install NT according
to the direction.  The readme file explains this in detail.  NT sets up, after installation you will have a boot manager
installed.


Just read.

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From: [e-mail] (Ken Musgrave)
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Subject: SIGGRAPH 96 Heads Up
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The opportunity to submit to the SIGGRAPH 96 Technical Program is not past:
submission deadlines for Sketches and Applications are still weeks to months
away!

------------
Applications
------------

The Applications program represents a unique opportunity to contribute to
the SIGGRAPH 96 experience!  This "theory into practice" theater seeks to
showcase established graphics devices and methods that have successfully
migrated into the everyday working world.  We are looking for case histories
that represent a variety of subjects and levels of complexity, and that
provide insight into how successes are achieved by the computer graphics user
community.  The deadline for submissions is 19 April 1996.  For details, check
out the Applications Program information at

      http://www.siggraph.org/conferences/siggraph96

Warren Waggenspack
SIGGRAPH 96 Applications Chair
[e-mail]
[phone]

--------
Sketches
--------

SIGGRAPH 96 features three categories of Published and Unpublished Sketches:

            Technical Sketches
            Animator Sketches
            Artist/Designer Sketches

The publication option is new for SIGGRAPH 96.  The publication is to be
exactly one page in the Visual Proceedings.  Publication as a sketch will

                ***NOT***

we repeat *NOT* preclude future publication as a full-length SIGGRAPH paper.
Thus you can put forward your very best ideas and results in the Sketches.
Published sketches can serve to time-stamp your result, and provide a valuable
first publication for graduate students.  Please be advised that we will be
very selective in reviewing published sketches, to maintain the high quality
of SIGGRAPH publications.  Please take care in their preparation.

The published sketch submission deadlines are:

    April 5:    Published Artist/Designer Sketches
    April 12:    Published Animator Sketches
    April 19:    Published Technical Sketches

Unpublished sketches are for blue-sky presentations.  Our intent here is to be
inclusive: you suggest an interesting topic; we'll provide a soap box for you
to expound upon it.  The deadline for submission of unpublished sketches are
as late as possible, to accommodate the latest-breaking results.  They are:

    May 1:        Unpublished Artist/Design Sketches
    May 12:        Unpublished Animator Sketches
    May 15:        Unpublished Technical Sketches


o Animator Sketches

Please take particular note of the Animator Sketches--brand new for SIGGRAPH
96.  Use them to explain what's not obvious from simply watching your
animations.

o Journal Papers as Sketches

Also new for this year, we're inviting authors of published journal papers to
present their papers in the Sketches.  If you've published a journal paper
recently and would like a chance to present it at SIGGRAPH, please submit a
Sketch proposal--many people who might never get to read your paper might come
to hear you present live.

o What to Expect

Although Sketches are by design modest affairs, experience indicates that a
presenter can expect a good-sized audience, i.e., fifty to hundreds of people.
It is my vision, as the first Sketches Chair, that the Technical Sketches will
become a major conduit for exchange of technical information at SIGGRAPH--
because for every result "big" enough to become a SIGGRAPH Paper, there must be
dozens "big" enough to merit a Technical Sketch.

Sketches are also an ideal place for graduate students to get their first taste
of the heady experience of making a presentation at SIGGRAPH.

For details on all the Sketches, see the conference Call for Participation:

    http://www.siggraph.org/conferences/siggraph96/CFP

Sincerely,

Ken Musgrave
SIGGRAPH 96 Sketches Chair
[e-mail]
[phone]
--

    Lunatics and visionaries both interact with realities that don't exist.
    The difference is that visionaries bring those realities into existence.
                                    -FKM

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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
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Subject: Re: User Interface:  was Re: MAX or Lightwave?
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Well, obviously I like LW's interface. Max has some nice real time
feedback stuff, particularly in terms of modeling....

The interface I wish LightWave would emulate a little more is actually
Photoshop - I like the idea of floating pallettes (particularly ones you
can 'tear off') and I really like how customizable Photoshop's interface
can be. IMO, the buttons and text in LW are too big right now...make 'em
smaller and allow the user to view the light panel, camera panel, surfaces
panel and view all at once...if they want...


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
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I am still deciding which 3d program(Real3D, HAM, LW, MAX) to upgrade from TS.
I have received a great deal of info and help on all these programs from the
newsgroup members and want to thank you all for your patience with my many
inquiries!!

Here's my humble and novice conclusion:
Real3D
Pro:  Powerful, many features and effects included for
      a bargain price, good documentation and tutorials.
Cons: Very difficult to master, not very intuitive.

HAM
Pro:  Powerful IK character animations, good support.
Cons: No documentation(only-online help).

MAX
Pro:  If it lives up to its hype (Autodesk usually does)
      it will be awesome. Many third party plug-ins and books.
      Industry recognized as a Pro 3D program.
Cons: $3500, not out yet to compare.

Lightwave
Pro:  Powerful, plug-ins, industry recognized as a pro 3D program.
      Comparatively easy to learn, many good books out on LW.
Cons: Not much included with basic program. Modeler separate program.

If I had the money and time I would get all, but since I’m restricted to make a
decision on one program I consider LW (though not the best program) to be the
best choice. If I where a seasoned animator I would probably have chosen Real3D
but since I am starting from the ground up LW seems to be a better choice for a
novice.

Any last minute suggestion's before I purchase LW?
Thanks Again in advance!

Giorgio E. Alvarez
[e-mail]


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These two CD-ROMs of filmed explosions/smoke/fire etc. were previously
mac-only CDs.  We now have PC versions of both CD-ROMs, with AVI
previews and WAV sound files. Price is only $115 for one, $195 for both.
Buy both and we'll also include a videotape catalog of the effects.

The effects are 640x480 or larger, and are scanned from high-res, high-speed
35mm film for top-notch color and detail.

Full details on the CD's contents is included below.

Thanks,

Jim


===============================================================
Complete information on the Pyromania 1 and 2 CD-ROM collections:

Available in February 1996, the PC version of Pyromania 2, and an updated
and improved PC version of Pyromania 1. These CD collections of film-captured
smoke, fire, explosions, sparks and other hard-to-emulate effects have allowed
film and video makers to take their graphics and animations to new
levels of realism and impact.

Trinity Enterprises will offer the CDs for sale as soon as they are available.
Pricing is $139 list for either CD, but for a limited time we will offer
the CDs for $115 each or $195 for the combination of both Pyromania 1 and
Pyromania 2. Also, as a free bonus to orders for both CDs, Trinity will
include a video tape of all of the effects catalogued for your selection.

Everything you ever wanted to know about the CDs is listed below, so page
down if you'd like to read that first.

ORDERING

To order, we need the following information:

1. Visa/MC number and expiration and name on card
2. Your ship-to address
3. Some way to contact you if there are any troubles with your order (email
   for international, phone or email for US).

The billing vendor will be Trinity Enterprises. The total amount will
include prices above plus $5 for US shipping and $10 for international
shipping.

If you'd rather mail a check, that's fine. Make it out to Trinity Enterprises,
and be sure to include the shipping as described above.

Our info:

Trinity Enterprises
1040 SW Twin Creek Drive
Lee's Summit, MO 64081

PH: 816-525-0103 (US central time)
FAX: [phone]
email: [e-mail]
CIS: 73261,66


Complete details of the CD's contents are listed below:

PYROMANIA! - Playing With Fire (Vol. 1)

PYROMANIA!-Playing With Fire, is Visual Concept Engineering's
first volume of the CD-ROM Movie Effects Studio.  Visual Concept
Engineering (or VCE for short) has been a leader in producing visual
effects for the motion picture industry over the past 16 years. Over
150 motion Pictures including RETURN OF THE JEDI, ROBOCOP, BEETLE JUICE,
ADDAMS FAMILY, CLIFFHANGER and most recently NIXON have featured our work.

That expertise is now available for the first time with professionally
photographed motion Picture visual effects elements filmed especially
for the Pyromania CD-ROM.

The images on this CD-ROM are not computer generated effects or computer
graphics!  The images on this disk were photographed for their "organic"
quality and are currently difficult if not impossible to recreate successfully
or realistically using computer technology.

The image files on this CD-ROM are not "video-captured".  Each image
was originally photographed on high speed 35mm motion picture film.
The negatives were scanned using a linear array scanner at 2K
resolution (2048 pixels wide x 1536 pixels high, 72 dpi) and sampled
down to 640 x 480 pixels.  All the image files on the CD are 24-bit.

This results in a higher quality image without "video artifacting" or
"video quality" as observed in other CD-ROM's utilizing video captured
and converted .FLI movies.

Note that the film speed used to capture these segments is not 24 frames
per second (fps) as is most standard 35mm film.  The film speed during
the effects photography sessions was always much higher, as much as 100 fps.
After photography, VCE adjusted the frame capture frequency of the original
filmed segments to achieve the best and most striking effect.  In some cases,
the apparent scale of the explosion seems bigger when the recorded playback
is slower than the actual recorded explosion.  Therefore, when using the
segments as rotoscoped effects within video and animation productions, the
standard NTSC rate of 30 frames per second is usually appropriate, but can
be altered according to your judgement.  In any case, there is no one
correct playback rate.



                      Contents of CD-ROM:

Segment             # of Frames            File Names (From /To)

EXPLOSIONS

Small Explosion          80             EX48100.TGA  thru EX48179.TGA
Big Explosion           160             EX47100.TGA  thru EX47259.TGA
ShockWave Explosion      43             EX51100.TGA  thru EX51142.TGA
ZeroG Explosion - Sm     58             ZG01100.TGA  thru ZG01157.TGA
ZeroG Explosion - Med    58             ZG02100.TGA  thru ZG02157.TGA
ZeroG Explosion - Lg     58             ZG03100.TGA  thru ZG03157.TGA
Flak-1                   75             FLAK1100.TGA thru FLAK1174.TGA
Flak-2                   41             FLAK2100.TGA thru FLAK2140.TGA

FIRE WIPES -

FireWipe #1              43             FW1103.TGA   thru FW1142.TGA
FireWipe #2              44             FW2107.TGA   thru FW2143.TGA
FireWipe #3              24             FW3100.TGA   thru FW3123.TGA
FireWipe #4              22             FW4100.TGA   thru FW4121.TGA
FireWipe #5              23             FW5100.TGA   thru FW5122.TGA

FIRE -

Flame                    79             FR44100.TGA  thru FR44178.TGA
Starting Fire           100             FR45100.TGA  thru FR45199.TGA
Bottom Fire              78             FR51100.TGA  thru FR51177.TGA
Billowy Fire            110             FR46100.TGA  thru FR46209.TGA
Fire At Camera           55             FR50100.TGA  thru FR50155.TGA

MISC -

Film Burn                31             FB01100.TGA  thru FB01130.TGA

EXAMPLES -

City Fire       .FLI Movie and example TGA files to show how to add
                BottomFire to image of city background.

Space Ship      .FLI Movie to show how to add ZG explosion, ShockWave
                and FireWipe to simulate an exploding spaceship.

FireWipe        .FLI Movie and example TGA files to show a completed
                fire wipe.

Notes about EXPLOSIONS:

Small Explosion:  EX48100.TGA thru EX48179.TGA

Explosion takes place entirely within frame, shot against black
with small fire remaining.  Does not include Alpha channel.

Big Explosion:  EX47100.TGA thru EX47259.TGA

Huge explosion entering from bottom of frame, fills frame, then
mushrooms out of frame.  Does not include Alpha channel.

ShockWave Explosion:  EX51100.TGA thru EX51142.TGA

Zero G explosion (gravity independent) with blue shockwave preceeding
the blast.

Flak-1:  FLAK1100.TGA thru FLAK1174.TGA
Flak-2:  FLAK2100.TGA thru FLAK2140.TGA

Zero G Explosions comprised of smoke and sparks.  Flak-1 fades
out by the last frame whereas Flak-2 leaves a smoke residue. Does
not include Alpha channel.

ZeroG Explosion - Sm:  ZG01100.TGA thru ZG01157.TGA
ZeroG Explosion - Med:  ZG02100.TGA thru ZG02157.TGA
ZeroG Explosion - Lg:  ZG03100.TGA thru ZG03157.TGA

All three ZG sequences are from the same negative but the size has been
adjusted in the sampling of the resolution:

ZG01  Has taken the original frame dimensions (2048 x 1536) and resized
      them to 640 x 480.
ZG02  Has taken the original frame dimensions (2048 x 1536) and resampled
      them to 1024 x 768.  The outer dimensions were then clipped
      to 640 x 480
ZG03  Has taken the original frame dimensions (2048 x 1536) and has
      clipped them directly to 640 x 480 giving you a larger size explosion
      with original 2K resolution.

ZG files Do not include Alpha channels.

Notes about Fire Wipes:

FireWipe #1:  FW1103.TGA thru FW1147.TGA

Diagonal wipe: Top Left to Bottom Right

FireWipe #2:  FW2107.TGA thru FW2143.TGA

Diagonal wipe: Bottom Left to Top Right

FireWipe #3:  FW3100.TGA thru FW3123.TGA

Wipe from Top to Bottom

FireWipe #4:  FW4100.TGA thru FW4121.TGA

Wipe Out from Center

FireWipe #5:  FW5100.TGA thru FW5122.TGA

Wipe from Bottom to Top

Each Fire Wipe TGA file has an Alpha channel which provides one side
of a wipe transition.

Notes on Film Burn

Film Burn:  FB01100.TGA thru FB01130.TGA

The projector starts, the film jams, then... FILM BURN!  Boy, those
were the days.  The film burn can be used as an end transition to a
scene or movie.




PYROMANIA 2! - (Vol. 2)

Pyromania2 contains fourteen high quality, royalty free, pyrotechnic
effects. Also included on the disc are Pyromania2 Tutorials, the Video
for Windows runtime, and an electronic version of the manual.

The effects on Pyromania2 are moving sequences, originally photographed
by VCE on 35mm Motion Picture Film. Additionally, each effect has been
directly sized down from the original 2K high resolution digital film
scan. This results in a higher quality image without "video artifacting"
or "video quality" as observed in other CD-ROMs utilizing video captured
and converted Video for Windows movies.

Best of all, because the images on Pyromania2 are royalty free, you
now have the unprecedented power to create high quality effects on a
desktop computer for use in YOUR movies.

Contents of Pyromania2 (Revised 12/21/95)

File Names                     frames

                     explosions subdirectory
filenames:                    frames  AVI sizes description        resolution
AEXP0001.TGA - AEXP0040.TGA      40   22%, 11%  aerial explosion   900 x 1283
FEXP0001.TGA - FEXP0076.TGA      76   25%, 12%  firey explosion   1024 x 1024
DSWV0000.TGA - DSWV0042.TGA      43   50%, 25%  depth shockwave    640 x  480
SWAV0001.TGA - SWAV0071.TGA      71   50%, 25%  blue shockwave     640 x  480
SPRK0000.TGA - SPRK0052.TGA      53   50%, 25%  spark              640 x  480

                        fire subdirectory
BFIR0000.TGA - BFIR0089.TGA      90   50%, 25%  bottom fire loop   640 x  480
FRWP0000.TGA - FRWP0088.TGA      89   50%, 25%  fire wipe (ALPHA)  640 x  480
FFIR0000.TGA - FFIR0089.TGA      90   50%, 25%  full fire loop     640 x  480
PTFR0001.TGA - PTFR0077.TGA      77   50%, 25%  pot fire loop      640 x  480

                      fireworks subdirectory
FWKA0000.TGA - FWKA0152.TGA     153   50%, 25%  fireworks 1        640 x  480
FWKB0000.TGA - FWKB0128.TGA     129   50%, 25%  fireworks 2        640 x  480
SKYR0000.TGA - SKYR0044.TGA      45   50%, 25%  sky rocket         189 x  480

                      smoke subdirectory
SPFA0000.TGA - SPFA0128.TGA     219   50%, 25%  smoke puff 1       640 x 1180
SPFB0000.TGA - SPFB0120.TGA     121   50%, 25%  smoke puff 2       640 x  480
SMWP0000.TGA - SMWP0166.TGA     167   50%, 25%  smoke wipe (ALPHA) 640 x  480
STSM0001.TGA - STSM0100.TGA     100   50%, 25%  smoke column start 500 x 1024
SCOL0001.TGA - SCOL0052.TGA      52   50%, 25%  smoke column       500 x 1024

                       Misc subdirectory
SP100040.TGA - SP100046.TGA      7    50%, 25%  Spark 10           640 x  480
SP130310.TGA - SP130315.TGA      6    50%, 25%  Spark 13           640 x  480

                               Sounds

12 WAV Sound Files, 22 kHz, mono format. These are located in the
MISC\SOUNDS subdirectory.

Sequence Information

Notes on explosions

aerial explosion (100% @ 900 x 1283)
Small explosion takes place entirely within frame, shot against black.
Does not include alpha channel.

depth shockwave (100% @ 640x480)
Zero G explosion (gravity independent) with blue shockwave
preceding the blast. Perspective has been added to give the
impression of depth. Does not include alpha channel.

blue shockwave (100% @ 640x480)
similar to depth shockwave except it is twice as long, it's blue and
it goes away into the center.  Does not include alpha channels.

spark (100% @ 640x480)
A simple enlarged spark fills most of the frame. Does not include alpha
channel.

firey explosion (100% @ 1024 x 1024)
Medium size explosion takes place entirely within frame, shot against
black.  Does not include alpha channel.

Notes on fire

bottom fire (100% @ 640x480)
Fire burns on the bottom half of the frame extending from side to side.
Does not include alpha channel.

fire wipe (100% @ 640x480)
A blast of fire wipes the frame bottom to top. Includes alpha channel.

full frame fire (100% @ 640x480)
Fire starts at the bottom of frame and fills the screen. Does not include
alpha channel.

full frame fire loop (100% @ 640x480)
This is a seamless loop made from the full frame fire file. This file
will provide you with and endless loop of a full frame of raging fire.
Does not include alpha channel.

pot fire (100% @ 640x480)
Basically fire burning in a pot. This image was cropped in from a 2k
image, and may work best in most instances when reduced in size slightly.
Does not include alpha channel.

Notes on fireworks

fireworks 1 (100% @ 640x480)
These fireworks are very "soft" and colorful . They do not leave the
frame. Does not include alpha channel.

fireworks 2 (100% @ 640x480)
These fireworks are very "sharp" and bright. They do leave the frame.
Does not include alpha channel.

skyrocket (100% @ 189x480)
This is a launching skyrocket type of firework.
Does not include alpha channel.

Notes on smoke

smoke puff 1 (100% @ 640 x 1180)
A classic mushroom shaped puff of smoke. This is a very large high resolution
file ideal for enlargement and multiple placement options. Does not
include alpha channel.

smoke puff 2 (100% @ 640x480)
This smoke puff starts at the "camera", and then quickly blows away.
Does not include alpha channel.

smoke wipe (100% @ 640x480)
Smoke wipes the screen from bottom to top.
Does not include alpha channel.

starting smoke (100% @ 500 x 1024)
This is a column of black smoke starting small and drifting up into
position.  Use as a starting image to the Smoke Column loop.

smoke column (100% @ 500 x 1024)
This is a loopable column of black smoke against a white background.
Suggested by a game developer to use for planes that have been shot
down.


=======end of document===========



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Lyle Milton <[e-mail]> wrote:

>[e-mail] (Sean Huxter) wrote:
>>->EVERYBODY HIT THE DIRT!<-
>>
>>That's it, I'm OUTA here. When did this Lightwave forum become a place
>>for Lee and his 'Enemies' to fight it out?

>I hope this doesn't mean that you are leaving the newsgroup.  According to
>my newsreader there are ~2000 messages on this group.  Although there are
>a lot of posts on the "Lee and his 'Enemies'" subject, I'd say it takes up
>about 10 - 15% of the bandwidth.  I sometimes read those posts, but,
>typically, I scan the other 85 - 90% which is generally good LW/video
>info.  I invite you to join me.

Yeah, perhaps I was being a little hyperbolic. A little extreme, shall
we say?

I know nothing forced me to read the Lee threads, but, morbidly
fascinated, I did so.  And I got a little rankled.

I don't think I'd abandon this resource just because of a few
in-fighting posts, nor would I if, say, hypothetically, someone would
start arguing about the meaning of the swaztika. :-)

And I think Lee's great. As I said, he taught me a lot, and I like him
a lot. I think the guy's got guts that I often wish I had. And in
person he's one darn funny guy! My post was not to discredit him, just
to PRAY that people would get back on track with the topics we all
know and love.

(Hey, Lee, how do I get a ripple to start and spread from a central
point, say on a clear pond, and have it just radiate ONE ripple, and
no others, say as if a finger touched the surface?)

See? Let's get back to business.

Sean.






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In article <4hc69l$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING) writes:
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|>From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
|>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
|>Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave?
|>Date: 3 Mar 1996 08:19:49 -0500

|>>NewTek will add some great new features in the next release and bump up
|>the priceing to at least $1,500. Sorry hobby users, but is a dog eat dog
|>world in the animation marketplace and Lightwave is getting hurt by it's
|>marketing and priceing.
|>
|>Raising the snob appeal by raising the price can easily backfire.
|>
|>Lightwave is already more expensive than Photoshop and Fractal Design
|>painter combined, and those are hardly hobbyist tools. Lightwave already
|>costs more than $3000 if you bought it from version 1.0 and have been
|>upgrading over the years.
|>
|>--
|>M C L -

WL> I agree with the above. Since when is a lower price  a deterrent to
    purchasing software ? Offering more bang for the buck should mean that
    you will sell more than the competition. LightWave is used daily in
    the professional world. If I were the competiton I'd be delighted to
    see the price increase . If you have a product that won't sell at $1000.00
    raise the price to 1500.00 and the world will beat a path to your door.
    HELLO, reality check , The world is rushing to bring the price on
    everything down, cars,computers,homes,video equipment ect. Tell the makers
    of the PVR to double their prices so they can double their sales while your
    at it !  The only people I ever saw that this stratgy worked on was Mac
    users. I really believe the professional person in touch with the market
    will realize what LightWave offers for the buck. If they elect not to
    purchase it it is not because of a lower price, or marketing. It may
    well be because they read some of the threads in this newgroup though.

    -bill
|>

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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
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[e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie) wrote:

>
>THat is odd... My demo version of Intel Premier accepts JPEG, QuickTime
>CinePack, Intel Compressed, AVI CinePack,Intel Compressed as well as
>uncompressed formats.
>
>I always assumed that LightWave would take advantage of any codec that
>was installed in the Video for Windows operating system..including third
>party codecs...
>
>How do other people get their animations to tape if this is not the case??
>
>
I get my animations to tape using the PVR.

Dave Paige
Alfheim Imaging
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
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[e-mail] (Simon Blackledge) wrote:

>Mornin all,
>           Just wondered if any one has been able to replicate the
>water on the front of lw-pro <the one with the bouy and ship in distance>
>I  tried the cracks texture but the specularity looks naff.You can
>tell its a fake hi-light<which are really just reflections of light sources>
>Did he perhaps reflect a large sphere behind the camera?
>
>Suggestions welcome.
>--

I've been creating water surfaces like that since before that article
came out. So yes that method works very well. I've never heard of the
cracks texture. I use 'fractal bumps' with a relatively large texture
size for the displacement and then the crust texture as a bump map
with a much smaller texture size. I don't know why you say the
hightlights on the water are fake. On the cover there are no
highlights. The picture inside the magazine mentions being back lit,
so I suspect the highlights are real ( reflections of a light source).

Dave Paige
Alfheim Imaging
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (John Dowdell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation
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In article <[e-mail]>, Mike May <[e-mail]> wrote:

> <snip>
> But if TS2 "ties" hands, then Extreme 3D "The worlds Most Powerful 3D
> Solution" just plain cuts them off. After 3 months of Extreme, I cannot
> think of single outstanding feature. I got used to Macromodel on the
> Mac, even liked it. I also use Freehand on Mac and PC - learn it and
> live with it. The move to Extreme should have been easier since it
> combines elements of these programs... let me stop here as I have
> nothing good to say about Extreme except - if this is the
> real competition under $1000, then LONG LIVE LIGHTWAVE!!
>
> Mike


I'm curious Mike... that's pretty strong, particularly as you say you
already like MacroModel. Got anything useful I can bring back to the
engineering crew for future revs? tia.


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From: [e-mail] (John Ferrel)
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I have been researching Pentium systems before I purchase one and I would
like to hear some opinions on what people think is the best system for
less than $3500.  Please relate experiences and not heresay.  I would
appreciate direct email responses.

TIA,
 John

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Hey, Lee, how do I get a ripple to start and spread from a central
point, say on a clear pond, and have it just radiate ONE ripple, and
no others, say as if a finger touched the surface?)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Image sequence used as a displacement/bump/specular(MAYBE) map....


_____________________________________________
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billwrites----------------------
 If I were the competiton I'd be delighted to
    see the price increase . If you have a product that won't sell at
$1000.00
    raise the price to 1500.00 and the world will beat a path to your
door.
---------------------------------------


One other note on the price increase

Go read the 'Balls' ad....the poorly written copy is all about PRICE PRICE
PRICE.  I never would would have run a price ad. (Mainly because price is
so relative. To some people,. $1000 is a LOT of money to spend on
software; to some, it's nothing. Both are right.)

 Push the features. Show great looking graphics. Highlight some key users.
Show people they can make money, have fun, and lead better lives once they
own LightWave.

But to push the price, then raise it....bad bad bad......


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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Rudd)
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Wooly Mittens <4g9a42$[e-mail]> writes:

>Yes, I'm an Amiga LW user (from holland).
>I just recently stepped over from IMAGINE and proud of it,
>But my A1200-030-50MHz-FPU-10MegsRAM-0.5GIGsHD is getting
>flattened by lightwave and I don't know how long I can hold on.

>A friend bought a P133-16MEGS-3.2GIGsHD-4MegsDRAMDiamond stealth64-
>AWE32. And I'm getting jalous of the speed.
>But lightwave is flattening that too.

I still use my 2000/040-48mb ram or my 1200/030-24bmb ram to set up
scenes and to render and use the p150 -32 mb ram (win95) for speed when
95 doesn't suck down all the ram (95 eats up 22 mb ram out of the gate,
the rest is mine to do with as I like ;-(, I look to get NT soon). I hope
to see the PPC Amigas SOON! I much prefere the Amiga OS to win95. In fact,
I much prefere Mac 7.5 to win 95. I guess if I can get 95 to remain
stable long enough to do something useful with it, I might soften my view
of the thing. I can use Fractal Painter on my Mac -- no problem. On the
p150/win95 it says I don't have enough memory -- imagine that! 32 Mb is
not enough to paint with. Yes I know SOMETHING is wrong. Just don't
know what. Having the Amigas around weakens my motivation towards the
pc.


Doug Rudd

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[e-mail] (Steve Koren) writes:


>[e-mail] wrote:

>> I want to boot NT from my syquest,and still keep 95, How do you
>> do this???

>I dunno, but its a darned good thing you're asking about it in the
>lightwave group.

You may want to try System Commander. It can keep the predetory win 95
from killing NT (or any other OS you may want to use). The different
OSes must exist of separate partitions. I think NT is one of the more
advanced OSes that knows how to boot from something other than C:>,
rather like the Amiga. Poor win95 -- it's an NT wannabe.


Doug Rudd

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From: [e-mail] (Robert Bodek)
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I am currently in possesion of a PC workstation that is about a month old.  I
have been using it to run LighWave, and it runs
great.  However, it now looks like I need to step up to the SGI
platform.

Here's what is on the system:
-ViewSonic 17" Professional Series Monitor (.25 dpi 1600x1280)
-32 MB(Extended Data Out)Ram
-Intel Pentium 120 Processor (Intel "Endevor" Motherboard)
-DPS Perception Video Recorder (PVR 2500)
-2.1 GB Fast SCSI Hard Drive for Perception
-1.6 GB Maxtor Hard Drive System Disk
-4x speed Mitsumi CD-ROM (IDE)
-Microsoft Mouse
-101 Key Keyboard
-14.4 Modem (Modem Blaster)
-16-bit Sound Blaster "Vibra" Sound Card
-Diamond Stealth 64 with 4 megs VRAM
-Large Tower Case with 5External 5.25"/2 External 3.25" bays
-3.5" 1.44 MB Floppy
-LightWave 3D Version 4.0 (Free! with purchase of system)

Just to clarify the above, I will give you my copy of LightWave,
in the box, free of charge.  In fact, the registration card is
still in the box, so you can register it to yourself.

Also, in case you are not familiar with the Perception Video Recorder, it is a
top-of-the-line digital video board that allows
you to record video to a dedicated hard drive, as well as output
to videotape.  This is especially useful for putting your LightWave animations
on tape so you can show people the work that you do.
You can also do all kinds of video editing with professional results.
It supports S-Video, Composite, and Component Video for both input and output.
However, my board (PVR 2500) only allows for video output.
But if you want to, you can purchase the daughterboard, which will
allow you to capture video.

This is an outstanding graphics workstation, and I really hate to see it go.
I am asking $8000
If you have any questions, want to make an offer, or want to buy the system at
this price, feel free to E-mail me at:

                        [e-mail]






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From: [e-mail] (Vaibhav Goel)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio
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In article <N.030596.162232.52@#giorgioa.ix.netcom.com>,
 <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Cons: Very difficult to master, not very intuitive.
>

If you are looking for the "easy way",3D graphics and animation is not
for you.  No matter _WHAT_ program you use, you will have to put in a
_LOT_ of time and be very dedicated to being a reasonable artist.  I am
not disputing the fact that Real3D is hard to learn; sure it is.  But if
you put in the time and effort, Real3D will provide you with the _tools_
to help you.

>Any last minute suggestion's before I purchase LW?

I hope you dont need some features or have the cash to afford the plugins
you _might_ need for such stuff as particle animation and built in physics,
collision detection etc.  With LW you will have to buy 3rd part plugins for
all this stuff.  With Real3D it is all built in and part of the package.

In any case, good luck with whatever program you choose.

Regards,
Vaibhav
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Krego)
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On Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:52:27 GMT, [e-mail] (Simon
Blackledge) wrote:
>> 3dsM also has interractive shading (without a card), and its previewing
>> capability is not limited to black wire frames. I also think you can
>> color bones and objects different colors in wire frames. This allows you
>> to turn animation around a bit faster.
>
>Lightwave already does all of the above.
>Get the facts right.
>Yes i am an avid lw user but that is not my reason for the above.
>Imagine you are looking at both systems and take a look at the news
>group for some real-users reviews instead of mags.Get the idea:-{

You pick those points to defend?

Yes, Modeler has the PowerView plugin, but that is an external window
that shuts down Modeler until you quit Powerview. Not what I would
call interactive. Max has shaded previews right inside the program.
There is a big difference.

The previews in LW layout are all black wireframes on my copy. You can
change colors for the meshes, but the previews are still black.

What about the more serious features missing from LW that you did not
address that were in the original message?

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From: [e-mail] (Tim Krego)
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On 2 Mar 1996 10:21:01 -0700, Steph Greenberg <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>: hire a graphics shop to do the work.  I fit into both categories, and
>: Lightwave at its current price is my current choice.  Raise it to
>: $1500 and I'll look at alternatives like TrueSpace).
>
>Truespace isn't even playing the same game, let alone playing in the same
>ballpark, as Lightwave. And Lightwave and 3ds only barely make it into
>the playoffs against Softimage and Alias.

There are two catagories on the PC. Low end products (toys) like
trueSpace2, Extreme3D, etc. Then there are the production level
programs like 3DSR4, MAX, Lightwave, and Softimage/NT.

The PC market is so huge that products like trueSpace2 can sell enough
copies to stay in business.

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From: [e-mail] (Tim Krego)
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On 2 Mar 1996 20:33:50 -0500, [e-mail] (Stranahan) wrote:
>Unless I'm missing some news, Max is not shipping, no?
>Therefore, buy LightWave now. I do not think you will be unhappy.

Someone that spends $750 on LW won't feel like they lost money if they
decide to get MAX in the future. If a MAX owner spends $2500 on MAX
and ends up using LW for 25% of the price he wouldn't be happy. I use
both so I guess I have the best of both worlds.

>Let's wait for Max to ship, and THEN see what LightWave's feature set
>is...LW 5.0 (and you can bet there is a 5.0 in the works) isn't shipping
>yet either...

So then what? Wait for LW 5.0 to ship? Everytime NewTek announces a
product it will be a year for it starts shipping, if it ships at all.

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From: [e-mail] (PMshark)
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Sorry about this.  I know the missing avi problem for Win 95 has been
discussed here time and again (I read the posts), but unfortunately I
didn't have 95 up and running at the time, and I thought I would remember
the fix. (Obviously not.) Would somebody please be kind enough to remind
this doofus what file it is off of the Win 95 cd that I need to copy back
onto my system so I can render avi files from LW 4.0?

Thanks ever so humbly in advance.
PJ
[e-mail]
Visual Designer

"Look and you will find it--what is unsought will go undetected"
SOPHOCLES

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I'll pass this thread on to David Hopkins our Taming The Wave author and
animator at LightHouse in LA.
All The Best,
Tom Patrick
Editor
Video Toaster user
LIGHTWAVEPRO

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From: [e-mail] (Robert Dollase)
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Subject: Re: Fw: Which 3D program?
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Vaibhav Goel ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <N.030596.162232.52@#giorgioa.ix.netcom.com>,
:  <[e-mail]> wrote:

: >Cons: Very difficult to master, not very intuitive.
: >

: If you are looking for the "easy way",3D graphics and animation is not
: for you.  No matter _WHAT_ program you use, you will have to put in a
: _LOT_ of time and be very dedicated to being a reasonable artist.  I am
: not disputing the fact that Real3D is hard to learn; sure it is.  But if
: you put in the time and effort, Real3D will provide you with the _tools_
: to help you.

: >Any last minute suggestion's before I purchase LW?

: I hope you dont need some features or have the cash to afford the plugins
: you _might_ need for such stuff as particle animation and built in physics,
: collision detection etc.  With LW you will have to buy 3rd part plugins for
: all this stuff.  With Real3D it is all built in and part of the package.

: In any case, good luck with whatever program you choose.

: Regards,
: Vaibhav
: --
: --- Vaibhav Goel ---[email: [e-mail]]---------------------
: UNIX/Networking/WindowsNT/3D Graphics/Animation
: --------------------------------------------------------------------

I have to agree with the above.  Real3D was the first 3D program I
learned; in fact it was the first time I seriously used a computer and
even I got used to it before long.  And since then I've been increasingly
pleased with the results I've been able to get with all its power and
options...it's a good program.

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Zoltan Hunt ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >plugins for LW/Intel, once we don't have AREXX there?

: I always wondered why somebody didn't port AREXX to WinNT, I mean OS/2
: has it, the Amiga had it since '87 (standard after '90-91).  What is
: with this?

I don't know about AREXX but there is a package called Object Rexx comming
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From: [e-mail](Alan Chan )
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tim Krego)
writes:
>
>So then what? Wait for LW 5.0 to ship? Everytime NewTek announces a
>product it will be a year for it starts shipping, if it ships at all.

The Lightwave development group has, of course, been developing quite a
bit while we quibble about all this, and their policy has been to not
announce any new features until they are absolutely ready. I'm not
saying this as part of the Newtek marketing machine either. I'm a
betatester, I work with the bleeding edge stuff stuff daily, there are
cool things on the horizon. So hold on to your horses!

AC

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Would anyone know if there is a student version of Lightwave?


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From: [e-mail] (Gord Davison)
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[e-mail] (------james------) wrote:

>Does anybody have any benchmark times for a Dell 200mhz with 64megs?
>Or for that matter, any 200mhz or 150 mhz pentium pro?  Prefer. with at
>least 64 megs of ram (closer to the system I'm thinking of getting)
>
>...Jim                            TIP#587
>[e-mail]
>.......http://abacus.bates.edu:80/~jburke/

While we're on the topic, could someone post the standard benchmark times
for any Alpha-based system? Or MIPS, for that matter. Andy?

I'm trying to cost-justify a move from 100Mhz Pentium's up to, uh, well,
something more expensive ;-)

TIA,

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From: [e-mail]
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On 24 Feb 1996 17:26:01 -0700, [e-mail] (Walter (Jay)
Turberville ) wrote:

 Regarding these benchmarks:
>System: Micron 133MHz Pentium, 256K cache, 32MB EDO RAM
>Tester: Erik Flom - ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
>LightWave Rev: B
>File            Win95   Win95/SN        WinNT   WinNT/SN
>Dof.lws         6:27    6:13            6:17    5:53
>Raytrace.lws    51:14   ???             49:58   50:04
>Textures.lws    2:29    1:48            1:45    1:43
>ZBuffer.lws     6:56    4:36            4:40    4:38
>Blade.lws       21:26   14:54           14:01   13:38
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>System: Micron 133MHz Pentium, 256K cache, 32MB EDO RAM
>Tester: Erik Flom - ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
>LightWave Rev: C
>File            Win95   Win95/SN        WinNT   WinNT/SN
>Dof.lws         6:22    5:47
>Raytrace.lws            50:37
>Textures.lws    1:48    2:01
>ZBuffer.lws     4:45    4:36
>Blade.lws       13:00  12:53
>
These dicrepencies are somewhat significant if you think about 10secs
over say 400-600 frames.  Are there NT differences?
John Donlevie
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From: [e-mail]
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On Mon, 04 Mar 1996 01:11:18 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>I want to boot NT from my syquest,and still keep 95, How do you
>do this???
>
>
I installed NT in its iwn directory along side of Win95. I'd put it on
your windoze drive. WinNt has a startup that lets you choose NT or 95
and can default launch one or the ither. They are with us on this one
:)
John Donlevie
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On 29 Feb 1996 23:42:02 -0500, [e-mail] (AXAXA) wrote:

>Where can I get Powerview?
ftp.newtek.com OR Compuserve
John Donlevie
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On 2 Mar 1996 10:21:01 -0700, Steph Greenberg <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Michael D. Bartman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>: >Well, Lightwave should maintain a lot of it's market, assuming NewTek doesn't beat it
>: >into the ground. It's users are die hards, remember many of them were Amiga users ;)
>: >so they will keep their loyal fans. What is upsetting is they have a great product,
>: >but because of it's priceing it get lumped down with less capable programs. Hopefully
>: >NewTek will add some great new features in the next release and bump up the priceing
>: >to at least $1,500. Sorry hobby users, but is a dog eat dog world in the animation
>: >marketplace and Lightwave is getting hurt by it's marketing and priceing.
>
>: You have a point, but if NewTek bumps the price as you suggest, their
>: profits will drop.  The price/earnings curve won't adjust fast enough,
>
>That's idle speculation. Depending on what new features they add. There
>are more 3DS users than Lightwave users at this time (and you can't count
>all Toaster users as Lightwave users). And 3DS is alot more expensive.
>
>I use Alias. I think it's far too expensive, but it has mature editing
>tools on a few things where no other program even has a feature, and the
>editing tools are set up to handle very complex scenes, displaying mass
>numbers of curves and letting you move and scale them interactively en
>mass.
>
>These features are what I call 5/80 features. Maybe 5% of the program but
>without it we couldn't do 80% of what we're doing.
>
>That means, we use Alias in spite of the price, because we can't exactly
>do what we need in any other program.
>
>And we almost all have Lightwave at home. If they put GL style shading,
>multi target deformation, a first class heirarchy editor, interractive
>shading, arbitrary skeletal and constraint heirarchies, NURBS,
>expressions (within the interface) and unify the modeler and the layout
>interfaces, that's not worth $500. It's worth $34,000, the difference in
>price between Alias and Lightwave. Of course there is also a qualitative
>aspect to evaluating a specific implementation of those features, and
>there's a few I didn't list.
>
>: and I don't believe it's a double-hump type. (anyone who doesn't
>: understand what I just said should drop out of all discussions
>: involving proper price for products.  Those who understood, but
>: disagree, I'd love to hear about it! :^)
>
>Commodities are subject to the laws of supply and demand more so than 3D
>software, which tends to be very different from application to application.
>
>: What they should do is to do what you suggest (providing that the new
>: features are worth it for the pros), but keep the current version, or
>: a reduced-capability variant of the new release, at the lower
>: price...perhaps even drop it some....to serve as an entry level
>: product for those of us who are not professionals, but would like to
>: be, or those who are professionals, but don't need a lot of rendering
>
>Dudes, computer animation is now a viable career choice, paying in many
>cases as much as a lawyer or doctor. $1500 for Lightwave is far less than
>the tuition for most colleges, and it will do alot more for your future
>earnings than what you learn in school alone. A $1500 investment for a
>$70,000+ annual salary. Get some perspective.
>
>: hire a graphics shop to do the work.  I fit into both categories, and
>: Lightwave at its current price is my current choice.  Raise it to
>: $1500 and I'll look at alternatives like TrueSpace).
>
>Truespace isn't even playing the same game, let alone playing in the same
>ballpark, as Lightwave. And Lightwave and 3ds only barely make it into
>the playoffs against Softimage and Alias.
>
>: Doing this will mean they can satisfy both groups.  The pros who do
>: nothing but animation will get the full-featured version and be happy
>: that they paid more for "non-hobby" software (that they could have
>
>My mother in law's hobby is sewing. It's just a hobby. But she paid
>$3,000 for a Husquevarna Viking sewing machine.
>
>When I got into Lightwave, I had to buy a $1595 Toaster board to get it.
>I never had a use for the Toaster. This was at a time when a 650 MB hard
>drive cost $2300 and 4MB of Simms cost $1500. It was also at a time when
>there were alot fewer opportunities in CGI, and Lightwave experience
>wouldn't get you a job at nearly any major CGI facility if you had the
>talent.
>
>Frankly, I'd go with Martin Hash's Animation or Animation Master, if
>price is that important. I'd go with them anyway, since they have some
>unique capabilities, and are alot of fun.
>
>: money.  If they ever find that they have need of the more capable
>: version they have a clear upgrade path with no relearning involved,
>: and NewTek gets to keep them as customers and sell to them again.
>
>In case you didn't know this, entry level customers are the most costly
>for a company. They tend to need alot more support than the pros.
>
>While the pros demand more features, if they didn't the program would
>stagnate and eventually disappear.
>
>--
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Steph Greenberg               "Old age and treachery beats youth and skill."
>[e-mail]
>
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But Steph, what do you really think?
John Donlevie
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----< I'm a
>betatester, I work with the bleeding edge stuff stuff daily, there are
>cool things on the horizon. So hold on to your horses!
>
>AC<----


Don't you know that disclosure of your status as a beta tester is part
of your NDA?

GT



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OK, read the whole thing---- I didn't realize MAX has shipped (???)

>   [e-mail]. (bob's yer uncle) writes:

>         Max does these things in REAL time. With TEXTURES and transparecney.
>  Not to overly slag Lightwave, it IS  a good product, but the major difference
>  will be the speed of either products. MAX will be much faster to use.

    That last sentence triggered my bullshit detector.

    Why don't we wait until it actually SHIPS to see how fast it is.

    BTW, it's really hard for ANY product to compete with vaporware, so
let's just see what we shall see, eh?


>      I've been using Max and really like it so far, and it's fast.
>  mike

    Oooops--- OK, how about some hard info: your post was pretty vague:
"It'll be faster"...."It'll have better film tools"  Since you are using it
shouldn't that be "it IS faster", "it HAS better film tools" ???  Some specifics,
please.


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We are running Lightwave Rev. B on a P133 32megs RAM,
Diamond Stealth 64w/1megDRAM SonyMultiscan17sfII:

Lightwave only seems to recognize 10Megs of RAM in the scene panel
even though we have 32 (running Win95 BTW).  Does this mean LW uses
22megs JUST for the program?!?!?

In Modeler, The 2 view windows on the bottom are somewhat garbled: the
grid looks ok in the default screen, but if we zoom in or out, the
bottom half of the grid in these windows gets shifted to the right

In Lightwave, Wireframe previews render garbage.

Any help here? (our 2megs of DRAM for the Stealth are on order - will
this solve all our problems or are we being punished for not using our
Amiga much anymore?)


Todd Mizomi
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>   [e-mail] (Rose Haupt) writes:

>  Before getting my Toaster, I had used ProVideo Gold - a dedicated
>  character generator program (for Amiga only, so sorry).

    Haha, Tim, you crack me up:  I was about the first person in Washington
State to own an Amiga.

    PVGold on the PC would be great--that's pretty much exactly what I'm
looking for.  I already have one on the Amiga, but prefer the Toaster CG.

    What I'd REALLY like would be the Toaster add-on "Montage" for the PC.

    The wierd holes in the PC video market place are so odd.  BTW, Micro-
graphix publisher looks like it might fit the bill.

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Randomizing in batches
Date: 6 Mar 1996 07:55:24 GMT
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>   Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]> writes:
>  > >  Well, see, their starting and ending times all have to be the same, or
>  > >  they'd start drifting out of sync. The idea is to randomly offset all the
>  > >  keyframes BETWEEN the start and end points by small amounts. To do that,
>  > >  it's Motion Graph time.
>  >
>  >         OK-- shouldn't be too hard to write an AREXX routine that would do that,
>  >         or a BML-- just whompin' on the LWS ASCII file, eh?
>  >
>  > ** [e-mail]
>
>  Indeed, indeed my learned friend. A trivial challenge at best for a talented 3D
>  artist like my esteemed self . . . If I weren't such a friggin' programming
>  idiot!!! Actually, I *have* painfully hacked my way through some Arexx before,
>  but I could go in and change the paths by hand in less time than it would take a
>  dullard like me to write a script.

    Yes, for the first one.  It's the next 100 that make programming so
    attractive.


>
>  While we're on the topic, whazzup with your name? I mean, is it Jeric? Or how
>  about Jeri C? Kindly enlighten us!

    My name is J. Eric Chard.  The very first computer game I bought had a
fantasy motif:  I tried to become "Jeric of Westernesse"  (oooo, shades of
Micheal Moorcock) but due to string limitations became "Jeric of Wes".

    Plenty o' folk call me Jay Eric.  "But enough about me; what do YOU
think of me?"                  >8^)



>  Andrew Hofman
>  LumaQuest Productions

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From: [e-mail] (Keith Christopher)
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Ok, here's the scoop, tomahawk is online in ftp only right now. I may
throw up the old pages until I revamp them into the new pages. It will take
a little longer than before because my new day job doesn't have me
working from tomahawk on my desk. I will automate as much as I can.

ok on to business tomahawk is offically @ 38.251.244.5  I am reasonably
comfortable with the connection and machine it's on for the time
being. Upgrades are always a planned for thing.


so ftp to tomahawk.grandi.com (grandi.com == grand illusions (my company))

I will have the pages online by probably thursday and then work on the
new improved pages by friday or sat. you can still use you web browser to
connect to the ftp site by: ftp://tomahawk.grandi.com/pub/LW


Please send any comments/complaints/suggestions to [e-mail]


Thanks for your support !


Keith

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IAM NEW AT LIGHTWAVE WORLD AND I WOULD APRECIATE ANY HELP AT HOW TO MAKE
IMPRESIVE EXPLOSIONS LIKE SAY SPACECRAFT EXPLOSIONS(BABYLON 5).
MANY THANKS FOR YOUR ATENTION.


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From: [e-mail] (Saiyad Abdul)
Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave?
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Alan Chan ([e-mail]) writes:
>
> The Lightwave development group has, of course, been developing quite a
> bit while we quibble about all this, and their policy has been to not
> announce any new features until they are absolutely ready. I'm not
> saying this as part of the Newtek marketing machine either. I'm a
> betatester, I work with the bleeding edge stuff stuff daily, there are
> cool things on the horizon. So hold on to your horses!
>
> AC

I know you can't tell us exactly what the new features are but are they as
"cool" as the stuff in MAX ?

Sai



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On Tue, 05 Mar 96 21:22:32 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>I am still deciding which 3d program(Real3D, HAM, LW, MAX) to upgrade from TS.
>I have received a great deal of info and help on all these programs from the
>newsgroup members and want to thank you all for your patience with my many
>inquiries!!
>
>Here's my humble and novice conclusion:
>Real3D
>Pro:  Powerful, many features and effects included for
>      a bargain price, good documentation and tutorials.
>Cons: Very difficult to master, not very intuitive.
>
>HAM
>Pro:  Powerful IK character animations, good support.
>Cons: No documentation(only-online help).
>
>MAX
>Pro:  If it lives up to its hype (Autodesk usually does)
>      it will be awesome. Many third party plug-ins and books.
>      Industry recognized as a Pro 3D program.
>Cons: $3500, not out yet to compare.
>
>Lightwave
>Pro:  Powerful, plug-ins, industry recognized as a pro 3D program.
>      Comparatively easy to learn, many good books out on LW.
>Cons: Not much included with basic program. Modeler separate program.
>
>If I had the money and time I would get all, but since I’m restricted to make a
>decision on one program I consider LW (though not the best program) to be the
>best choice. If I where a seasoned animator I would probably have chosen Real3D
>but since I am starting from the ground up LW seems to be a better choice for a
>novice.
>
>Any last minute suggestion's before I purchase LW?
>Thanks Again in advance!
>
>Giorgio E. Alvarez
>[e-mail]
>
So, Autodesk's 3D Studio isn't an option ?
Just curious, kind of interested in your opinion....


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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
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Subject: Re: An iff reader under win95 ???
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Image Alchemy by Handmade software is the only converter I know of that can
read and convert almost if not all IFF picture formats. I've converted ham
images, ham-8 images, images with stencils, and 24 bit iff images with
Image Alchemy. They have a web page where you get the latest version. V1.9
is supposed to be due next week.

Just to avoid confusion, the name is "Image Alchemy" by Handmade software
NOT "Graphics Workshop" by Alchemy Mindworks.
--
M C L -

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From: [e-mail] (Morten Steen)
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I'm planning of making a new magazine dedicated to LightWave stuff.
It will be presented in AmigaGuide/HTML format.

I will also try to make it in various Windows file formats if I just could
find docs on the format that is used under Windows.

The AmigaGuide version will be spread on various FTP sites, such as Aminet
NewTek and so on.

The HTML version will be available on the WWW.

To do this, I need people to write tutorials, articles etc. for this magazine.

Maybe *you* is the right man/woman for this project.

You don't need to be a LightWave genious to write for us, but if you think
that you can write something useful that LightWave users will benefit from
you are welcome to write.

This will be a non-profit magazine made by LightWave users for LightWave
users.

It doesn't matter which platform you use, as long as you specify the type of
platform if you write about plug-ins etc. that are not available on all
platforms.

If you are interested in this, you can contact me via EMail at this adress:

*[e-mail]*

We also need a name, and if you have a name that could be nice, you're welcome
to telling me.

---
           AlcoVision
 Morten Steen, LightWave Animator
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In article <[e-mail]>, Timothy McFadden ([e-mail]) writes:
>       I just got LightRom3 and it has a demo version of Polyform
>(for the PC).  I was wondering if anyone else has checked it out.
>Does anyone know of any other comparable program?  Or are there any
>reviews on Polyform.

Polyform's excellent. But there is a free/shareware prog called
wcvt2pov which is pretty good too (no flash bits like flipping
polys tho).


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From: [e-mail] (Jan-Willem Korver)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Koren)
wrote:

>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> I want to boot NT from my syquest,and still keep 95, How do you
>> do this???
>
>I dunno, but its a darned good thing you're asking about it in the
>lightwave group.

Yep, but an answer anyway.
If you install NT after you install Win 95, NT should automatically pick-up 95 and
show an extra entry in the boot menu.

--
________________
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> IAM NEW AT LIGHTWAVE WORLD AND I WOULD APRECIATE ANY HELP AT HOW TO MAKE
> IMPRESIVE EXPLOSIONS LIKE SAY SPACECRAFT EXPLOSIONS(BABYLON 5).
> MANY THANKS FOR YOUR ATENTION.
>

I is not polite to use the internet way OF SHOUTING AT EVERYBODY!
So kindly turn of the caps. :)
Any way you didn't mention what computer you have, so lets begin to
advise you that you can find specific explode plugins at the newtek
ftp site ( FTP://ftp.newtek.com/pub/plugins/ ).

You could also cut out every polygon/surface in the moddeler, then
scattering these (in the modeler) to random positions, and finaly
morphing your original to the exploded one in the layout editor.

There is no easy (yet beautiful) way.

Wooly Mittens


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Here's a different angle to everyone elses.
    Somebody wrote that they would like to see the new version of LW
go up in price to $1500 to seperate the hobbiest from the pro's. And then
some one else said that $1500 isn't much to pay in comparison to a
semester at collage. Well, I think both of these are useless ways of
thinking. Why? Well, I am a hobbiest who is in school and used 1/2 my
funds for school to buy LW. It cost me over $700 to buy LW and another
$700 for 32 megs of ram. That alone was half of my money for two
semesters of school which I pay for. I thought it important to do this so
that I would have the experience and the education to back up LW and my
career as an animator. Now if LW was $1500 I would have to wait a year to
upgrade my ram, which would seriously hamper LW and my learning of it.
Second let's all say this together, "LW 4.0 just came out, is it fair for
a company to put a new version out so soon." Wouldn't this be shafting
long time supporters of LW who just upgraded? Maybe a better way would be
plugin's for those who have the money to blow (ie. thier not paying for
it themselves). But I think keeping LW as one great program and not like
a hog pog of little programs like 3DS?  Well I guess that's enough
venting for now, maybe I'm looking at all this the wrong way. Maybe it is
the program that makes the animation and not the animator.

Marco Sederquist
Student, FSU
LW wanna be...
or could be...
[e-mail]

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How do you reduce the polygon count of a model after your done. Most game
companies need models with as little as 300 poly's well after using
Metaform once or twice, well you know. Is there a program or plugin out
there. Thanks in advance.
Marco
Student, FSU
LW animator.

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    > >Cons: Very difficult to master, not very intuitive.
    >
    > If you are looking for the "easy way",3D graphics and animation is not
    > for you.  No matter _WHAT_ program you use, you will have to put in a
    > _LOT_ of time and be very dedicated to being a reasonable artist.  I am
    > not disputing the fact that Real3D is hard to learn; sure it is.  But if
    > you put in the time and effort, Real3D will provide you with the _tools_
    > to help you.
    >
You are right that 3d animation requires patience too master. I don't mind
dedicating time to becoming a good animator. I tried Real3D and thought it was
great program. It could however accomplish the same result with a more
efficient design. TS is a good example of a program that accomplish a lot
without a lot of hassles. TS is limited and does not have all the features
Real3D or LW has, yet its feature are "easy" to use and master. A program can
be powerful without having to be more difficult then necessary.

There is no "easy way" but what I was referring too was that I was looking for
the easiest way to get the same thing accomplished. POVRAY animators for
example are doing incredible things with it but I don't feel like programming
animation.

I'm still waiting for a voice recognition,nueralnet,artificial intelligence 3D
animation program that will balance my bank account!? :-)




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From: [e-mail] (Jim Phillips)
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Subject: Re: Where can I get Powerview?
Date: 6 Mar 1996 13:48:42 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>
>[e-mail] (AXAXA) wrote:
>
>> Where can I get Powerview?
>
>I found it on my LW4 CD-ROM under:
>
>  Lightwave/Programs/Plug-Ins/Modeler/PowerView.p
>
> - steve

The Tomahawk site has it too.  I think its under \LW or \UTIL
somewhere.  There's a zip file you can download.


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In article <4hj7h4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>While we're on the topic, could someone post the standard benchmark times
>for any Alpha-based system? Or MIPS, for that matter. Andy?
>
>I'm trying to cost-justify a move from 100Mhz Pentium's up to, uh, well,
>something more expensive ;-)
>
>TIA,
>

You know that I lurk in the shadows, just waiting for someone to ask a
question like this :-)

The following benchmarks are from the ...SCENES/BENCHMRK directory on a full
Lightwave install.  Most of them were run by our Japanese distributor D-Storm.
The PPro200MHz numbers are taken from a recent posting on c.g.a.lightwave and
the 21164a/366MHz numbers come from my lab notebook.  They are best viewed
with a fixed-width font (like Courier).

In the last column, I normalized the speeds to a Pentium/100MHz by figuring
out the factor for each column relative to PPro and averaging the columns at
the end.

                     Textures   Dof   Raytrace   Zbufsort   xP5/100
i80486/66MHz           1138      5173   45958     4679 sec    0.10
Pentium/90MHz           164       544    4499      411 sec    0.91
Pentium/100MHz          145       477    4276      386 sec    1.00
MIPS R4600/133MHz       133       473    3657      302 sec    1.08
Pentium Pro/150MHz       74       248    1940      211 sec    1.97
Pentium Pro/200MHz       56       188    1497      160 sec    2.59
Raptor3 Alpha45/275MHz   57       187    1550      152 sec    2.60
Raptor3 Alpha5/300MHz    28        91     877      111 sec    4.56
Raptor3 Alpha56/366MHz   26        87     781       83 sec    5.26

Shameless plug:  we just started shipping the 366MHz 21164a-based machines.
visit our 'web page for more information (http://www.dti.com).  All of you
people who have 266 MHz Raptors should be looking to upgrade to 366, too :-)


Blaise Fanning
VP Engineering
DeskStation Technology


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Marco Sederquist ([e-mail]) wrote:
: How do you reduce the polygon count of a model after your done. Most game
: companies need models with as little as 300 poly's well after using
: Metaform once or twice, well you know. Is there a program or plugin out
: there. Thanks in advance.
 I don't know of any, but It would have to merge polys and test if the
flatness limit was stomped on.


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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Student version of Lightwave?
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 08:29:32 +0000
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There is not a student version yet. I thinik it is stupid not to
offer one. There is a university discount if the university buys
LW for usage in the universities labs. But LW can not be sold at
discount via the bookstores..etc.

Adam
University Of California at Santa Cruz


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I have some model data on a unix system which I would like to convert
to something Lightwave can read. Is there a standard ASCII format that
Lightwave will read? If yes is there a spec or better yet some simple
examples?

Thanks,
Wayne R. Baldwin
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Gord Davison)
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[e-mail] (Blaise Fanning) wrote:
[nifty benchmarks and relative performance factors to boot! SNIPPED]

>Shameless plug:  we just started shipping the 366MHz 21164a-based machines.
>visit our 'web page for more information (http://www.dti.com).  All of you
>people who have 266 MHz Raptors should be looking to upgrade to 366, too :-)
>
>
>Blaise Fanning
>VP Engineering
>DeskStation Technology

Blaise,

Thanks for the info. That will be very helpful indeed. Now I just have to
create some animations that will take an *unGodly* amount of time to render ;-)
.. That shouldn't be too hard :-)

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 Gord Davison                      | 2D/3D Animator ¤ Multimedia Designer
 Phoenix Interactive Design, Inc.  |
 graphics ¤ animation ¤ multimedia |   "Complex problems have simple,
 [e-mail]             | easy-to-understand, wrong answers."
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From: [e-mail] (Steven Johansen)
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Subject: Re: plugins / avi
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[e-mail] (Ronald Renes) writes:

>Can anyone please tell me how to handle plugins...
>If got a few, but I don't know how to use them.
>When I "install" a plugin (for example explode) it tells me that it is
>succesfully loaded. When I try to use it with an object, I can't find
>any plugins... anyone... please????

>Also, I'm sure there must be some way to create movies (avi or
>quicktime or something) rather then lots of stills. Anyone has an
>answer on this one too???

>I would greatly appreciate it...


>Regards,

>Ronald


    Ron
        I recommend the Manuals as a great place to start for
this sort of stuff.
    What version of LW are you using?
    What platform?

    Steven

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From: [e-mail] (Blake Porter)
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Howdy!

I would like to bring in a flying logo then have a light "flare" flare up